starters - 1.4 vs. 1.8 kw - Toyota 4Runner Forum

roscoe67 · 02-03-2023, 09:49 PM

I have a 1997 4WD 3.4 SR5 manual.

The starter motor just gave up the ghost, after 270K miles. The local Toyota dealer has a starter, but it is the 1.8kw version, which was apparently for colder-climate vehicles. Is there any disadvantage to this? The parts guy at Toyota said it would fit, but I thought I would check - it was hard enough getting the 1.4kw version out through the frame, brake lines, etc., and I hate to fight something into place that won't work, especially as I assume it is a bit bigger.

Anyone have experience here?

brillo_76 · 02-03-2023, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by roscoe67

I have a 1997 4WD 3.4 SR5 manual.

The starter motor just gave up the ghost, after 270K miles. The local Toyota dealer has a starter, but it is the 1.8kw version, which was apparently for colder-climate vehicles. Is there any disadvantage to this? The parts guy at Toyota said it would fit, but I thought I would check - it was hard enough getting the 1.4kw version out through the frame, brake lines, etc., and I hate to fight something into place that won't work, especially as I assume it is a bit bigger.

Anyone have experience here?

This may help.. They both really should fit I have taken both out as i have factory manuals and autos in v6 only. I dont have any 4 cylinders. :-)

If you ever plan on removing your starter, read this first.

Romeo1 · 02-03-2023, 11:29 PM

I put a 1.8k in late summer when the old parts house one started needing tapping. I can't tell a difference honestly.

roscoe67 · 02-04-2023, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Romeo1

I put a 1.8k in late summer when the old parts house one started needing tapping. I can't tell a difference honestly.

Ah - OK, that's what I need to know.

Big thumbs up to the sway bar removal, also.

Thanks!!!

brillo_76 · 02-04-2023, 09:29 AM

I pulled both types through the inner fender. Loosening the brake line bracket makes it easier. Pulling the sway bar off let's it come through the bottom..

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19963.4lsr5 · 02-04-2023, 10:59 AM

I have pictures in my repair thread on removing it through the inner fender and the exact position it needs to be in.

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gamefreakgc · 02-04-2023, 09:28 PM

Oh, I'm jealous you have a manual. It makes that job sooooo much easier as you can remove the starter completely from the vehicle very easily.

You are in Nevada so go with the 1.8KW version.

Romeo1 · 02-05-2023, 01:43 PM

No reason to not do the 1.8k really.

Unless there's some differences between the model years, I don't understand all the Installer issues. I removed the 4XI skid plate, and that was it. It is a tight space, and it's a challenge to line up due to the way it's designed without an alignment boss. But in my situation, removal of sway bar or brake line was completely unnecessary.

I do use drive on ramps to lift rigs to work under them.

If I recall right, I think I used a pry bar to hold the starter to get the first bolt started.

My perception is skewed though. Go replace a starter in some semis with a Detroit DDEC 2 or some of that old farm equipment. Way way way less space to work with.

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