03-15-2023, 07:58 PM
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Much JDM, very OEM.
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03-15-2023, 08:39 PM
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I don't recommend the Tuff Support replacement struts. I got the normal strength ones and they can't lift the tailgate once the temperature drops. They have extra strong ones that could be better.
After experiencing that, I might look into rebuilding the original ones. The originals look more sturdy than all the replacements I've seen. If you live in a cold area, get the extra strong version from whatever brand you choose.
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03-15-2023, 11:18 PM
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Many will, as stated above, disagree with the Strongarm hatch struts. I personally love them and just installed them three months ago. The P/N is 6815 in case you wanted to know. You can find them on Amazon and other platforms across the internet.
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Mine we great as well, they are very punchy and strong. I did buy the overcharge model which it seems like they do not sell anymore, or I cannot find it. The Strongarms lasted 5 good years, but my OEM struts before that lasted 19, so I'm going back to OEM. I think at the time of purchase the Strongarms were around 1/2 the price of the OEM parts but now the Toyota OEM struts have gotten cheaper (surprising) while the Strongarms have become more expensive.
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03-16-2023, 08:30 AM
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Mine we great as well, they are very punchy and strong. I did buy the overcharge model which it seems like they do not sell anymore, or I cannot find it. The Strongarms lasted 5 good years, but my OEM struts before that lasted 19, so I'm going back to OEM. I think at the time of purchase the Strongarms were around 1/2 the price of the OEM parts but now the Toyota OEM struts have gotten cheaper (surprising) while the Strongarms have become more expensive.
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The 6815's are the "with added strength" version. If I get 5 solid years out of them like you did, I'll be happy with that. If/when the time comes, I'll consider going to the OEM cold-spec struts. When I did my researching I didn't come across the OEM cold-spec version, otherwise I likely would have gone with them. The price was a big selling point for me, too. Like $65 or something around there. They've been great so far though, even in sub-freezing temps, like 20 degrees or so.
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03-16-2023, 08:41 AM
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OP back again. Thanks again for all of the info. When I get some spare cash, I will order some OEM's.
For some background info, the reason for my OP here is that on a cold day (30 F), I had to take one of my dogs to the vet for getting spayed. I put her crate in the back of my T4R, and in the process of doing that and picking up her 54 lb to put in the crate, my tailgate kept dropping down and I very nearly clocked my forehead a few times.
Back in the day, I cheaped out on stuff, at the expense of extra labor. I probably had to do something to the mounting brackets when I put my existing aftermarkets in about 12 years ago. The older I get, the less HASSLE I will abide, and I really don't want to go searching for parts and maybe modifying them to fit. I want to bolt and go. Plug and play. Grumpy old man syndrome. Finally, if it comes a time to replace the new replacements that I will get, I won't want it to be from me, as I will be between about 62 and 70 then (if my T4R is still running by then). 5 year struts might make it. 19 year struts will definitely make it, and when I sell it, a properly working tailgate on a dinosaur will be a bonus in the sale.
Finally, on an unrelated note, my upcoming emission inspection will be my last on this T4R. Beginning in 2024, I will no longer have to have it inspected, as it will be considered an antique here in GA.
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03-17-2023, 12:03 AM
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I bought the Strongarm 6815 with Added Lifting Force and I have to say that I must be getting old... It takes extra effort to close.
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03-17-2023, 04:36 PM
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I bought the Strongarm 6815 with Added Lifting Force and I have to say that I must be getting old... It takes extra effort to close.
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Not just you. When I first installed those I practically had to use body weight to pull it down. By comparison, my new OEM colds are a lot less peppy but having new bushings is totally worth it to me. It sounded like a flock of geese every time I used the hatch.
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03-17-2023, 05:00 PM
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Not just you. When I first installed those I practically had to use body weight to pull it down. By comparison, my new OEM colds are a lot less peppy but having new bushings is totally worth it to me. It sounded like a flock of geese every time I used the hatch.
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I agree, the cold spec OEM struts seem to not have as much force as new 6815's did. But they do have nicer damping, they open more softly than 6815's.
Hopefully with the OEM quality, they will last a while.
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03-19-2023, 02:36 PM
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I got NAPA brand ones, mostly cause I get a discount through work. Going on 2yrs. No issues here
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12-09-2023, 04:18 PM
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just an update....installed the oem cold specs a few months ago....
at MINUS 28 today they did not hold the hatch up....but they went slow...where previous winters the strong arm cold temps....they did not hold.
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12-09-2023, 06:44 PM
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So far the Strongarm 4286 struts that I installed last month have worked fine. Hasn't been that cold though but they did work fine when it was 32F cold soaked.
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