User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-22-2024, 01:10 PM #1
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
Replaced Rear wheel bearing and still have play

Hello,

I have looked every where and no one seems to have the same problem. Any input is appreciated. So got a 1997 4runner two years ago and the passenger side rear wheel bearing was bad or so I thought, there was a bunch of play. So I replaced the wheel bearing using Timmy the tool mans videos and still have a bunch of play on at the time I thought it was a bad new bearing so I replaced the wheel bearing again "this time with one from Toyota" and still had a bunch of play. So I went to the junk yard found one with very little to no play and put it on mine (axle wheel bearing Abs ring backing plate, everything just kept it together and put it into mine). And I still have play! but slightly less than after the wheel bearings I put on. After changing the tires I noticed I had a bunch of play again so just last weekend I tried to change the wheel bearing for a third time another wheel bearing from Toyota and I still have a bunch of play did everything by the book and torqued to spec. The only other thing I tired was grabbing the drum from the side (drivers side) and putting it on the passenger side and it didn't changed anything. The driver side rear wheel has Zero play and I've yet to change it. Could it be the rear differential/ 3rd Member? It makes no noise while driving and theirs no metal in the fluid. Thoughts?
Nathan97Limmited is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2024, 02:32 PM #2
19963.4lsr5 19963.4lsr5 is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Stouchsburg PA
Posts: 5,359
19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold
19963.4lsr5 19963.4lsr5 is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Stouchsburg PA
Posts: 5,359
19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold
What do you mean by play?

In and out?

Up and down?

Rotational?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
19963.4lsr5 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2024, 02:43 PM #3
2TH4IST's Avatar
2TH4IST 2TH4IST is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Silent Hill
Posts: 552
2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice
2TH4IST 2TH4IST is offline
Member
2TH4IST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Silent Hill
Posts: 552
2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice
Is the axle housing damaged (where the bearing sits) or the bearing cup damaged? Is the actual bearing pressed all the way on? How tight were the retaining ring and abs tone ring? Since everything is a press fit you might have something that is loose.

Is the actual axle loose or is it the drum?
__________________
There's danger lurking around every corner, that's why I propose we make all of our buildings round.

I don't remember the time I was human that's why I don't understand anybody.
2TH4IST is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2024, 03:13 PM #4
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
Sorry I should have said they play is up and down and side to side I don't remember there being any in and out. And the bearing I believe is pressed in all the way followed the video and got it on far enough to put the C clip back on. The housing seems fine but it did not take much for the bearing to come out of the housing but this is also the new housing and axle since the first time i did the Wheel bearing. I think the axle, when the tire is on you can feel and hear a clunk side to side and up and down

Last edited by Nathan97Limmited; 05-22-2024 at 03:16 PM.
Nathan97Limmited is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2024, 07:50 PM #5
19963.4lsr5 19963.4lsr5 is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Stouchsburg PA
Posts: 5,359
19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold
19963.4lsr5 19963.4lsr5 is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Stouchsburg PA
Posts: 5,359
19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold
It sounds like the actual axle housing where the bearing outer race sits is worn, egged….


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
19963.4lsr5 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2024, 08:42 PM #6
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
I've tried two different housings the first one i tried to put a small shim in with no luck but maybe. They are crazy expensive from the dealership for a new one. I'm aware the bearing doesn't sit here. Only photo I got from the last job I did.
Attached Images
Replaced Rear wheel bearing and still have play-img_8211-1-jpg 

Last edited by Nathan97Limmited; 05-22-2024 at 08:53 PM.
Nathan97Limmited is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2024, 11:20 AM #7
mtbtim's Avatar
mtbtim mtbtim is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 59
Posts: 5,380
Real Name: Tim
mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute
mtbtim mtbtim is offline
Elite Member
mtbtim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 59
Posts: 5,380
Real Name: Tim
mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute mtbtim has a reputation beyond repute
The brand new bearings have some play. That is normal.
__________________
"My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it!"
mtbtim is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2024, 11:39 AM #8
3bears 3bears is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: north east of Fairbank out there in the frontiers Alaska
Posts: 3,331
Real Name: 3 Bears
3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold
3bears 3bears is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: north east of Fairbank out there in the frontiers Alaska
Posts: 3,331
Real Name: 3 Bears
3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold 3bears is a splendid one to behold
so you even tried with a junkyard complete unit and had the same issue. How does it compare to the other side ?
__________________
2000 SR-5 Highlander version 4:30's, factory locker , green, bought 6/21
2001 SR-5... bought 11/20..sold 6/21....
2000 SR-5 moded, lifted, e locker, other cool stuff, totaled 10/20
2002 tundra ac v8 4wd
1969 kharmann ghia
3bears is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2024, 11:50 AM #9
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
There is zero play on the driver side and maybe 1/4 inch on the passenger side. It is bad enough that shops wont do an alignment.
Nathan97Limmited is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2024, 12:19 PM #10
2TH4IST's Avatar
2TH4IST 2TH4IST is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Silent Hill
Posts: 552
2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice
2TH4IST 2TH4IST is offline
Member
2TH4IST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Silent Hill
Posts: 552
2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice
Sounds like an egged out bearing cup.

If the side with play is swapped over the the opposite side and doesn't have play, then it only leads to one possible conclusion.

Edit to remove bad info lol.
__________________
There's danger lurking around every corner, that's why I propose we make all of our buildings round.

I don't remember the time I was human that's why I don't understand anybody.

Last edited by 2TH4IST; 05-26-2024 at 12:07 AM.
2TH4IST is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2024, 02:22 PM #11
19963.4lsr5 19963.4lsr5 is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Stouchsburg PA
Posts: 5,359
19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold
19963.4lsr5 19963.4lsr5 is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Stouchsburg PA
Posts: 5,359
19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold 19963.4lsr5 is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2TH4IST View Post
Sounds like an egged out axle housing. Probably best bet to swap out an whole housing from a junkyard.

If the side with play is swapped over the the opposite side and doesn't have play, then it only leads to one possible conclusion.

If you have a spare bearing you can slide it into the housings hole to see if there is any play, like to check if it's out of round. Or check it with a bore gauge or dial caliper.

Sliding a new bearing into the axle housing hole and looking for the play between the OD of the bearing and the housing would tell the story.

When I have to remove my axles I must reverse the drum and use it as a slide hammer to get the axles out of the housing.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
19963.4lsr5 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2024, 12:22 PM #12
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
I did noticed when removing the bearing from the housing after I got the axle out that it basically fall out like I just hit it twice with a hammer and it came out BUT the same thing happened to Timmy the tool man in his the video. Unfortunately there is no 3gen 4runners at the junk yard anywhere near me I'm up in Edmonton Alberta Canada. A new housing or "CASE, REAR AXLE BEARING; RETAINER, REAR AXLE BEARING, OUTER, LEFT; RETAINER, REAR AXLE BEARING, OUTER, RIGHT" Part Number: 4242135030 from Toyota is $130 USD. I thought it might be the housing too but this is my second housing the original one I changed the bearing on and the second one that I took from the junk and also changed the bearing on Still had the same issue but who's to say that they both are not good anymore. Any thoughts before I buy a housing and hope it works
Nathan97Limmited is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2024, 05:28 PM #13
2TH4IST's Avatar
2TH4IST 2TH4IST is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Silent Hill
Posts: 552
2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice
2TH4IST 2TH4IST is offline
Member
2TH4IST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Silent Hill
Posts: 552
2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice 2TH4IST is just really nice
Edit to remove incorrect info. Note to self, don't post when your tired.
__________________
There's danger lurking around every corner, that's why I propose we make all of our buildings round.

I don't remember the time I was human that's why I don't understand anybody.

Last edited by 2TH4IST; 05-26-2024 at 12:03 AM.
2TH4IST is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-25-2024, 06:13 PM #14
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
But I thought the bearing does not sit in there? Like it just sits in the housing and and on the axle and the ABS ring just spins in that space?
Nathan97Limmited is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-25-2024, 06:50 PM #15
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
Nathan97Limmited Nathan97Limmited is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 25
Nathan97Limmited is on a distinguished road
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/attac...1&d=1716677348


Is this the piece to measure? its the the one I ordered.
Attached Images
Replaced Rear wheel bearing and still have play-housing-jpg 
Nathan97Limmited is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bearing , bunch , play , side , wheel

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wheel bearing replaced still play? jman11788 3rd gen T4Rs 31 04-27-2023 08:14 PM
Rear wheel bearing play rcrick 3rd gen T4Rs 11 11-21-2014 12:29 AM
Does my wheel bearing need to be replaced? (video) uncleslam23 3rd gen T4Rs 16 08-01-2014 04:50 PM
Wheel bearing replaced 3 times in less than a year??? fuel-n-fire 4th Gen T4Rs 11 04-22-2014 11:03 PM
excessive wheel play.. already replaced everything Jc12 3rd gen T4Rs 2 09-07-2013 03:56 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:31 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020