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Old 06-11-2024, 08:34 PM #1
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Body mount bushings - OEM rubber or Polyurethane?

Hey I'm looking into replacing my body mount bushings. I know I can either do OEM rubber or polyurethane bushings. I understand that the poly bushings will create a stiffer ride quality and you might hear more engine vibration and rattles/buzzes inside the cab. The new OEM rubber bushings will create the same ride quality I'm used to (maybe better) and with no noise. However for the parts I need, OEM rubber body mount bushings from Toyota would cost ~$624. Compared to the Energy Suspension poly body mount kit which would cost ~$200. I'm pretty certain that I'm going to get OEM rubber bushings, but the huge price difference is having me question this. Is this a buy once cry once situation? Or is this a rare situation where spending less might get you a better product? My 4runner is on pavement most of the time and I'm looking for a comfortable ride for reference.
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If you're going for comfort them stay with OEM. Have you tried Amayama.com? That's where I got my body mounts and it was more like $400 (still kind of a lot)
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I did poly a couple of years ago. Honestly I didn't notice a difference at all. But I'm used to NVH from my miata. It is a buy once cry once kind of thing. Look how long the stock ones lasted. 20 something years. If you want comfort go oem. If you want less flex, poly.
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Poly mounts reduce the secondary 'wiggle' of the rubber mounts. It still has a fair amount of NVH isolation. I went with poly to get rid of that that 'wiggle' without much concern about harshness - you still have 70-series tires isolating you from the road! No regrets here. I have since starting replacing suspension bushings with poly, also with positive experiences.

But yes, if you want full OEM ride quality, new OEM rubber mounts will be best.

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I went with poly from Nolathane. Good product. Didn’t really notice any difference noise wise. I have Whiteline suspension poly bushings as well.
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Went with ES poly couple years ago to eliminate bumpers hitting body. Didn't notice any
ride difference DD'ing on pavement, new seat foam helps a lot.
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Poly here, no complaints No way I'd spent another $400+ for oem.
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Lots of good feedback about poly, wow! Maybe I should've saved a few bucks and gone that route!
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Yeah, this thread is pretty good timing!

I have waffled between compounds for years, and even had very helpful member @fatherohenry
provide the OEM part #s, but I can't help but feel the poly is going to be fine - and cheaper to boot.
Still unclear why they can't produce poly with the same durometer as rubber, or if that defeats the purpose...
Hopefully @infamousRNR chimes in, as his polys should have a few miles on them by now.
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Well they can reduce the durometer of poly, but if you are X company that makes all these makes and models of bushings of the same durometer, would it be wise to make a lower durometer for 1 vehicle and have to clean the pumps, hoses and injecting nozzles? Not really.

But yeah, poly is where it's at. I too did it mostly for bumper body contact prevention. Did it the same time I did my 1" body lift. Would never go back.
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Still unclear why they can't produce poly with the same durometer as rubber, or if that defeats the purpose...
Sure they could - but then it wouldn't be an upgrade/change from OEM.

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Sure they could - but then it wouldn't be an upgrade/change from OEM.

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I would assume they are more durable/impervious to oil etc.?
But honestly, at 25 years for OEM I'd be impressed if I was
even alive when they would start to break down again...

Already started the hunt for polys, but I'm digging my heels in at $200.
I know it's still half the price of rubber, but I've been on a bit of a spree lately and need to at least pretend I'm trying to be sensible!
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I would assume they are more durable/impervious to oil etc.?
But honestly, at 25 years for OEM I'd be impressed if I was
even alive when they would start to break down again...

Already started the hunt for polys, but I'm digging my heels in at $200.
I know it's still half the price of rubber, but I've been on a bit of a spree lately and need to at least pretend I'm trying to be sensible!
The Energy Suspension kit 8.4111G that you need is about $257.00 everywhere.

Here it is on Amazon for $235: Amazon.com

Here it is straight from ES: 8.4111G

Toytec also carries it: 8.4111G - Energy Suspension Body Mount Bushing Set - 96-99 4Runner

I bought the 8.4110G kit for my 2000 in 2022 from Amazon for $195.00

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The Energy Suspension kit 8.4111G that you need is about $257.00 everywhere.
There are a few different versions, depending on year/body mount layout. Make sure you get the correct one.

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Awesome info y'all!

I did come across some companies with tantalizing prices, but the websites look so weird, I can't bring myself to go through with it.
I think I'm going to go with Rock Auto for $210 shipped for the 8.4111G (blk) kit and cross my fingers it's the smart move
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