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Old 04-24-2010, 01:57 AM #16
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I am going to flush the tranny myself tomorrow, I bought Penzoil ATF that is compatible with Dexron II, I'm assuming Penzoil is probably a good brand. Any thoughts on Penzoil ATF? Thanks.
There's nothing wrong with Penzoil.
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http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp...s_ImportMV.pdf

Here's the stuff I used when I changed mine out. Check out the compatibility.
It's good for dexIII also. Like was stated before, it's backwards compatible. I'm having great results with it too.
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Have you used this method yourself? Are you saying you can idle the engine, pump out the old fluid and the tranny will suck the proper amount with the return line in a bucket of new fluid?
What Quicksilvr said is right. You use the transmissions pump to get the fluid out and just pour new fluid in through the dipstick as the old fluid is coming out.

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Consider the flush. Better yet, do the flush. I absolutely would. And IMO and experience the MYTH that flushing will destroy your tranny is horse sh!t. That's only true if the tranny is on the verge of breaking before you flush it. There would be no question whether to flush or not if it were mine. Actually I did a complete flush at 185K and it's never shifted smoother. Here's the write-up: Dropping Pan And Flushing Transmission
I agree. A flush isn't harmful and you should do it as part of regular maintenance. The walk through linked above is really thorough and includes a filter change with the flush. If you do just the flush portion it will take a little longer to get the fluid out but the whole process will be much simpler and faster.
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No they don't.

staghv1 flush that out.
that tsb is from may 2002,alot as change from then and toyota stop selling dexIII. T-IV is a upgrade, i was having minor shifting issues with my solara i switched over to T-IV problem solved. its been 60k and 1 flush, 1 drain and refill with T-IV no issues in fact improvemnt.
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when you guys say flush do you mean with the machine.
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when you guys say flush do you mean with the machine.
The flush I'm referring to is without the machine. A flush just means that nearly all the old fluid is exchanged with new fluid, as opposed to a drain and fill.

Is there a TSB specifying that Dexron III may be replaced with T IV in Toyota transmissions?
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I'll see if i can drop by a dealer monday and get it
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What Quicksilvr said is right. You use the transmissions pump to get the fluid out and just pour new fluid in through the dipstick as the old fluid is coming out.
How about a gravity feed arrangement on the return line?
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Not trying to thread jack, but I figure its relavant.

No opinions on the Valvoline Max Life Dex/Merc that I mixed in when I did a drain and fill? I am starting to have second thoughts that I should have just stuck with standard Dex III.
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How about a gravity feed arrangement on the return line?
That would accomplish the same as pouring in through the dipstick tube. The input rate doesn't have to match the output rate as long as you start at an adequate fluid level and continue adding fluid the entire time it's being pumped out. The process takes a few minutes max and can be done continuously.
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Just turn the engine off after every qt. or 2 that it pumps out so you can catch up because it pumps out a lot faster than you can pour it down the dipstick tube.
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Not trying to thread jack, but I figure its relavant.

No opinions on the Valvoline Max Life Dex/Merc that I mixed in when I did a drain and fill? I am starting to have second thoughts that I should have just stuck with standard Dex III.
Valvoline Max Life Dex/Merc is compatible with Dex III. It's fine.
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that tsb is from may 2002,alot as change from then and toyota stop selling dexIII. T-IV is a upgrade, i was having minor shifting issues with my solara i switched over to T-IV problem solved. its been 60k and 1 flush, 1 drain and refill with T-IV no issues in fact improvemnt.
I have never heard from Toyota that you can substitute Dexron for T-IV. I will look into it myself, but if you can justify our members by showing them an official Toyota bulletin, I advise our members NOT to take Brooklyn's advice. I'm not trying to sound like an ass, but until you can show us the official "OK" from Toyota. Using a T-IV in a dexron is horse poop. T-IV and Dexron have different friction modifiers and such, if the wrong fluid gets absorbed into the clutch packs and the intermediate band in the transmission NO FLUSHING will get that out, it doesn't matter how many times you flush it.
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i honestly would only use toyota trans fluid.
I went to Toyota Dealership in Maryland and they wouldn't sell me "Toyota brand Dexron II or III", they suggested Quaker State ATF which they had on the shelf. I've personally never been a fan of Quaker State Oil... So I decided to go with Penzoil, I use Penzoil engine oil for all my vehicles, so I thought It'd be a good idea to be consistent and go with my more favorable yet affordable brand... Of course with my luck after I dropped the pan I found out that there was a 5 day back order on my Tranny filter, so now the truck is sitting there still dripping oil after two days. I have to wait another 4 days to recieve the filter to finish my flush process.

Before I dropped the pan, the 4R was shifting gears as good as ever. I'm just hoping I havn't set my tranny up for failure over the long run by mixing T-IV... (cross fingers)
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I think it would take a while for T-IV to actaully do damage. My guess is you caught it before anything bad happened.
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