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Old 10-14-2015, 04:58 PM #211
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That looks really cool! Rent it to your friends when they need it and get some money back ;)
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Ok. Update. I followed this write up to the tee. I just passed my 1 year anniversary safety inspection with flying colors.

I just passed my 2 year anniversary.

Thanks again BigFishAllDay!
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5 Star write up for sure, I
just did this on my 96 and this write up was a life saver, make sure you take your axles to someone who is familiar with Toyota's/ is a competent machinist.
The person I had press my stuff together didn't take any measurements before hand and pressed the abs ring and inner retainer on way too far and the axle didn't seal at all.
I had to buy a new abs ring and take it all apart again :/ so just something to look out for
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Thought I'd share my version of the special service tool. If you can weld, save yourself some $$ and build it yourself. If you do it right, one tool can disassemble and re-assemble everything and even save the collars and ABS reluctor rings. I cant take credit for the bearing splitter idea - saw it somewhere else. I also ended up beefing up the cross-bars (not shown in the pics), but otherwise this design works perfect with a 20T HF press and a set of HF bearing splitters.
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Here's the disassembly process.

Not shown: The seal on the backing plate can be removed by hand or with a seal puller. The bearing itself can be gently tapped out of the backing plate fairly easily.
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Also: If you are doing the bearings/seals, now is the time to replace the "brake drum oil deflector gasket." PN 42443-55020. They are cheap, and mine were saturated in gear oil. You will have to yank the studs, but that is NBD. Think of the gasket like an oil slinger in an engine - except its a cardboard material that helps retain (small amounts) of oil that gets past the seal from getting into the brakes.
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Does anyone Know if all Locker axles use the same bearings and seals? According to another post in this thread there's a difference between 96-99 and 00-02 bearings etc.

I need to do my axle seals and figured this would be a good time to install my locker axle, problem is I have a '00 truck and a (97?) 3rd and housing. I will need to reuse my '00 axles. Which seals should I get?
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(I should've mentioned earlier: MEASURE your ABS reluctor ring location and inner collar location prior to removal.)

Here's the re-assembly process:

I forgot to take a pic of the rear axle seal itself, but they are easy to install. I just used a HF seal driver set, and drove them into the axle (don't forget to grease/lube it).

The bearing presses into the backing plate easily. The outer seal can be installed by hand. You will see a few bearing/axle press adapters used in my pics - these are just out of my HF wheel bearing adapter set.

Then the axle shaft gets pressed into the bearing. I supported the assembly from my special axle tool (updated design pictured). Basically the square tube is the right size to interface and support the inner race on the bearing, but still allow the axle shaft to pass thru. I opted to lube the steel press fit surfaces lightly with WD40 to make everything go easier. Obviously you want to grease/oil the seals. Also keep an eye on the splined end of the axle shaft - mine got pretty close to the press/floor while pressing parts together.

Then a collar can be pressed on in the same fashion (I reused my old collars, since I was able to remove them intact). The outer collar retains the bearing and the inner collar is the sealing surface - therefore I used the old inner collar at the outer location, and vice versa for the inner collar. This way the fresh collar (no seal wear grooves) is now used for sealing. A new retaining clip is used to retain the outer collar against the bearing.

Now the ABS reluctor ring can go back on. I re-used the old ones, since I was able to remove it intact. On my rig, it was located .700" from the inner edge of the machined surface on the axle (see pic).

Now the inner collar can be pressed on. Note that it does not get pressed flush to the ABS reluctor ring. The tapered edge NORMALLY faces inboard, however after I took a few measurements it was clear to me that it would be very difficult to ensure the seal lip rides in the appropriate area on the collar. I took the advice of @Drcoffee and flipped the inner collar around backwards (tapered edge facing outboard). On my rig, the collars ended up at .150" from the from the inner edge of the machined surface on the axle (see pic).

I re-installed the studs, generously applied grease to the collar and installed the assembly to the rear axle and spun it a few times. This gave me a good pattern that shows where the seal lip is riding on the collar (see pic showing the seal lip is positioned near the center of the collar via the grease marks).

With the "grease test" looking good, I re-installed everything for keeps. Don't be alarmed when you notice the ABS ring does not appear centered with respect to the ABS sensor hole - it is not supposed to be. Don't forget to re-fill the rear axle with gear oil. Now would also be a good time to extend the rear axle breather (and verify that it is not clogged).

So far so good. No obvious leaks, and no ABS light. I will be periodically pulling the ABS sensors and checking for gear oil on the ABS reluctor ring just to verify everything is good.
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Quick question: Is this a repair that can wait? I discovered it today... it was just greasy around the rear drum brake. It was only evident when I took the brake apart. I have to drive to Maine and back in the next 2 weeks and don't have time to deal with it until then. My differential fluid was still nice and full. What do you think? And I good to do my road trip and then worry about this? I have noticed no issues braking. 2000 4runner. Thanks!
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Is this a repair that can wait?
Its a risk and personally I would try to avoid waiting - but if you have no other choice, then it sounds like you have already answered your question.

Keep a close eye on it, monitor the oil level, and give yourself a little extra stopping distance.
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Back off the rear brake shoes so they wont bind if they get oil soaked. Then drive carefully.
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wow awesome write up man
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nice thread

Awesome thread..maybe I should do mine before Im forced to.
Anyone ever put discs on the rear and forget worrying about doing all that work.
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Anyone ever put discs on the rear and forget worrying about doing all that work.
The rear disc conversion would be a huge amount of work, but would not spare you from having the bearings and sleeves installed correctly. Besides that, if the seal leaked, the oil would still fling all over the brakes.
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Quick question: Is this a repair that can wait? I discovered it today... it was just greasy around the rear drum brake. It was only evident when I took the brake apart. I have to drive to Maine and back in the next 2 weeks and don't have time to deal with it until then. My differential fluid was still nice and full. What do you think? And I good to do my road trip and then worry about this? I have noticed no issues braking. 2000 4runner. Thanks!
Mine has actually been leaking on the left for 4 years and rides smooth as glass. Keep eye on fluid in diff. Now right side started. Going to do both soon. I don't drive this truck a lot, but I don't think there's many that wait and I don't think it's an issue to wait if you make sure fluid is topped.
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