I was on a seasonal road in my area the other day that only gets plowed partly,I would have never dared going down it in my old acura or my old celica but I decided to go for it in my 4runner.The whole road was ICE and thats it,I got about half way down the road to relize the plow truck pushed a huge mound of snow into the middle of the road and was blocking my way past it.you could actually see deep rutts from where other people were there doing the same thing i was doing without so much success.Ok so i have cheap no name tires and was at a complete stop at the bottom of this seasonal all ice road.I tried backing up in 2wd NO DICE,kicked it in 4wd and to my suprise no tire spin in reverse all the way to the top of the hill.My very first "experience" with the thriller they call the "4runner".man im really starting to love this thing