Home Menu

Site Navigation


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-23-2011, 07:44 PM #1
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Clutch pedal riding low, shifting difficult

I have a 2000 5 speed 4runner.

My clutch pedal is riding really low and it is very hard to shift. Sometimes if I am stopped I can't even put it in first or reverse. It feels like the shifter would break if I pulled it hard enough to put it in gear. It is easier once the car warms up, and with gears 2-5.

This first happened during the winter. I replaced the clutch fluid which seemed to fix the problem. The clutch pedal was riding high and shifting was super smooth. But now the problem is back and maybe even worse, just 6 months later.

I've searched for this, and it seems like it could be a few things: dirty clutch fluid (unlikely since I just replaced 6 months ago), bad master and/or slave cylinder, or maybe even a broken clutch pedal bushing (my clutch pedal squeeks, especially when its wet out). Could it be anything else?

How should I diagnose this, and then how can I fix it? The 4runner is nearly undriveable at this point.

Let me know if you need more info.
Parks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2011, 07:59 PM #2
habanero's Avatar
habanero habanero is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: St. Louis area
Age: 56
Posts: 1,872
Real Name: Throws like a girl
habanero is a glorious beacon of light habanero is a glorious beacon of light habanero is a glorious beacon of light habanero is a glorious beacon of light habanero is a glorious beacon of light
habanero habanero is offline
Senior Member
habanero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: St. Louis area
Age: 56
Posts: 1,872
Real Name: Throws like a girl
habanero is a glorious beacon of light habanero is a glorious beacon of light habanero is a glorious beacon of light habanero is a glorious beacon of light habanero is a glorious beacon of light
May seem like a stupid question but you don't mention it....
did you check the fluid level?
habanero is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2011, 09:09 PM #3
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Yea, I meant to mention that the fluid level was fine and that it wasn't too dark (was brown, but not nasty brown). I also used brand new brake fluid, since that stuff can go bad.

I just replaced the clutch fluid again and its drive-able, but I think it will only be a temporary fix like last time.

If/when it gets super hard to shift again in a few months, what problem would that be?
Parks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2011, 09:26 PM #4
sportscarfan's Avatar
sportscarfan sportscarfan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: High Country, CO
Posts: 609
sportscarfan will become famous soon enough
sportscarfan sportscarfan is offline
Member
sportscarfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: High Country, CO
Posts: 609
sportscarfan will become famous soon enough
Re-bleed the clutch?

I'd also check the fluid level in the transmission. Even better, change it if it's due. I recommend Redline MT-90. I just changed mine and the shifting went from difficult into 1st & 2nd to smooth as you'd expect.
Previously I had used Amsoil synthetic (Which I DO NOT recommend - tough shifting).
__________________
'97 SR5 V6 4x4 | 5-speed | e-locker | 33's
sportscarfan is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 12:01 AM #5
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Since when I replace the clutch fluid it shifts smoothly for a few months then I don't think it has much to do with the transmission fluid. That being said, my next move may be to change the transmission fluid just for good maintenance since its probably about due.
Parks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 10:49 AM #6
wardriver's Avatar
wardriver wardriver is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains, VA
Posts: 105
wardriver is on a distinguished road
wardriver wardriver is offline
Member
wardriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains, VA
Posts: 105
wardriver is on a distinguished road
Have you checked your adjustment rod on the clutch pedal? You'll need two wrenches, loosen the nut and run the rod out with your fingers until its tight. Re-tighten the nut and see how it shifts.
__________________
Current Toyota
96' 4Runner | 03' Sequoia
Former Toyotas

70' FJ40 | 72 FJ40 | 72' FJ40 (#2) | 76' FJ40 | 78' FJ40 |81' Trekker | 85 Hilux | 95' 4Runner
My Instructables
wardriver is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 11:07 AM #7
DriVen DriVen is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 7
DriVen is on a distinguished road
DriVen DriVen is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 7
DriVen is on a distinguished road
I have the exact same truck as you and the EXACT same problem. Only seems to do it in the morning when it's cold. It's made me late to work before. Fluid levels are fine and the fluids are clean. I've noticed when it does this the clutch pedal wont let all the way back out. So i use my foot and manually pick the clutch pedal all the way back up then engage the clutch again and it works just fine.

I probably should stop being so lazy and replace the slave and see if that fixes it.
DriVen is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 11:22 AM #8
DH4Runner's Avatar
DH4Runner DH4Runner is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 141
DH4Runner is on a distinguished road
DH4Runner DH4Runner is offline
Member
DH4Runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 141
DH4Runner is on a distinguished road
Not sure if this will help but I had an 86.5 supra and the master cylinder went out. Well, long story short, the shop kept replacing it with an 86 master and if you know your supras, you'll know the 86.5 was a new model, thus, different master.

Perhaps something with the master cylinder is off?
__________________
'96 Limited 4x4 - Toytec Ultimate - 265/75/16 BFG's
DH4Runner is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 03:12 PM #9
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by wardriver View Post
Have you checked your adjustment rod on the clutch pedal? You'll need two wrenches, loosen the nut and run the rod out with your fingers until its tight. Re-tighten the nut and see how it shifts.
What's the adjustment rod?
Parks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-25-2011, 01:43 PM #10
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by DriVen View Post
I have the exact same truck as you and the EXACT same problem. Only seems to do it in the morning when it's cold. It's made me late to work before. Fluid levels are fine and the fluids are clean. I've noticed when it does this the clutch pedal wont let all the way back out. So i use my foot and manually pick the clutch pedal all the way back up then engage the clutch again and it works just fine.

I probably should stop being so lazy and replace the slave and see if that fixes it.
Definitely let me know if you find a fix!
Parks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-25-2011, 02:53 PM #11
wardriver's Avatar
wardriver wardriver is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains, VA
Posts: 105
wardriver is on a distinguished road
wardriver wardriver is offline
Member
wardriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains, VA
Posts: 105
wardriver is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Parks View Post
What's the adjustment rod?
Lay in your front driver side floor compartment. Head towards the firewall and look up to the clutch pedal. You'll see the connecting rod that goes from your pedal through the firewall to the master cyl. Take a 14mm ( I think - maybe its a 12) wrench and and adjustable wrench or a pair of slip lock pliers. Hold the larger round piece with the two flat sides. and loosen the nut on the connecting rod. Spin the lock nut down a bit and run the connecting/adjustment rod out (left if you were looking from the master cyl into the pedal) finger tight then tighten the nut back. Check pedal pressure and release point.

As your clutch disk wears down you need more "throw" or movement on the clutch fork to fully disengage the clutch disk from the flywheel. Thus an adjustment is sometimes helpful. This might do the trick. Its free so you might as well try it. Hope it helps.

-WD-
__________________
Current Toyota
96' 4Runner | 03' Sequoia
Former Toyotas

70' FJ40 | 72 FJ40 | 72' FJ40 (#2) | 76' FJ40 | 78' FJ40 |81' Trekker | 85 Hilux | 95' 4Runner
My Instructables
wardriver is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-25-2011, 07:57 PM #12
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Parks Parks is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
Parks is on a distinguished road
Wardriver: great info, I'll check this out.
Parks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-05-2011, 11:23 PM #13
Yellowmenace Yellowmenace is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Burque
Posts: 7
Yellowmenace is on a distinguished road
Yellowmenace Yellowmenace is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Burque
Posts: 7
Yellowmenace is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by wardriver View Post
Lay in your front driver side floor compartment. Head towards the firewall and look up to the clutch pedal. You'll see the connecting rod that goes from your pedal through the firewall to the master cyl. Take a 14mm ( I think - maybe its a 12) wrench and and adjustable wrench or a pair of slip lock pliers. Hold the larger round piece with the two flat sides. and loosen the nut on the connecting rod. Spin the lock nut down a bit and run the connecting/adjustment rod out (left if you were looking from the master cyl into the pedal) finger tight then tighten the nut back. Check pedal pressure and release point.

As your clutch disk wears down you need more "throw" or movement on the clutch fork to fully disengage the clutch disk from the flywheel. Thus an adjustment is sometimes helpful. This might do the trick. Its free so you might as well try it. Hope it helps.

-WD-
Thank You thank You! This worked for my 99 T4R. I was having issues with the clutch not coming all the way up after I depressed the clutch. Caused the Cruise to not work. The fix worked like a charm. Thanks! Save me some $ at the Mechanic. This site totally rocks!
Yellowmenace is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 08:28 AM #14
wardriver's Avatar
wardriver wardriver is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains, VA
Posts: 105
wardriver is on a distinguished road
wardriver wardriver is offline
Member
wardriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains, VA
Posts: 105
wardriver is on a distinguished road
Glad it worked.
__________________
Current Toyota
96' 4Runner | 03' Sequoia
Former Toyotas

70' FJ40 | 72 FJ40 | 72' FJ40 (#2) | 76' FJ40 | 78' FJ40 |81' Trekker | 85 Hilux | 95' 4Runner
My Instructables
wardriver is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 09:43 AM #15
cordrayj1's Avatar
cordrayj1 cordrayj1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: James Island, Charleston, SC
Age: 39
Posts: 1,143
Real Name: Johnny
cordrayj1 is on a distinguished road
cordrayj1 cordrayj1 is offline
Senior Member
cordrayj1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: James Island, Charleston, SC
Age: 39
Posts: 1,143
Real Name: Johnny
cordrayj1 is on a distinguished road
dang. this should b a sticky for the 5speed guys. . .
__________________
2000 4Runner SR5, 5vz-fe, 5speed, 246k miles, bfg 35's on stock 1985 4runner wheels
cordrayj1 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
2000 , clutch , manual , pedal , shifting


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
soft clutch pedal tortex53 Classic T4Rs 8 07-31-2017 11:31 PM
Clutch Pedal Stuck North 3rd gen T4Rs 5 11-01-2016 02:34 PM
Squecky clutch pedal rafman 3rd gen T4Rs 11 10-31-2016 11:08 PM
Clutch pedal goes to far down? ontherunner Problems & Warranty Issues 2 09-25-2010 11:18 AM
Clutch pedal issue NathanOfSeattle 3rd gen T4Rs 4 06-02-2009 01:07 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:57 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020