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Old 08-14-2011, 04:49 PM #1
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Wink First hand experience would be great.

First off, Oklahoma's roads are bad. Some of the worst in the country without any doubt and I have to drive them. There are potholes all over, tall ridges where old road meets new, and cracks all throughout. This is not to mention the washboard roads i must drive in the country to hunt. I would like to be able to drive over them with relative comfort.

I have pondered Lift combo's From the very beginning and would like to hear input from those who have experience driving these setups. Personal experience is the only kind I will trust here.


I would like to run a set of new TRD coils from TRDparts4u.com on the front with bilstein shocks.


**I would like to hear from you guys how this front end takes a bump, and any notes you may have on how it responds to various road obstacles and hard turns. **

*Also, to those who really really like the way their truck handles and steers, Please post some of your input and suggestions.

As for the rear I suppose I will wait until the fronts are installed and i Jack the truck up to various heights to see what look i like best before I go ahead with buying something. But I will likely go with a spacer and a nice shock. only to later be replaced by a spring to the same height without a spacer.
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Any state with winters that go above and freezing in winter will have bad roads, but i know NY has a some horrible roads and no funding to fix them and yet CT isnt nearly as bad. Potholes are everywhere, if you think its bad in a 4runner, try it with lowered car with low ass oil pan.

But meh dont stiffen the truck up if you have lots of washboards and potholes, the ride will be crap.
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**I would like to hear from you guys how this front end takes a bump, and any notes you may have on how it responds to various road obstacles and hard turns. **

*Also, to anybody who really really like the way their truck handles and steers, Please post some of your input and suggestions.
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I really liked the ride and flex of the TRD coils. They gave me ~1.75"-2" of lift. With that said, that is on a 2000 and a 99 sits about 1" higher, stock. I first ran the OME 890 rears but needed more capacity so I went to 891. Later I added a 1/4" top-out spacer in front, and a 10mm OME trimpacker in back. I then went to ToyTec coilovers in front w/600# coils (TRDs are ~590#). I ran this for a little while but wanted more rear lift so I went with LC 9.25 wrap coils. The ride nice and flex great but can't carry a load well. The 9.25 wraps do give me about 4.5" in back with my standard load. I'm thinking about OME 861.

Yes, it is a sickness. I'm close to where I want to be, ~3.5" in front and 4.5" in back.

Back to your question. I did like the TRD/890 ride and handling. Granted the pictures on my profile are pre-settling.

There is a picture of my CO/LC lift on this thread http://threeg4runners.freeforums.org...skip-t151.html

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Hey thanks for the timely response and I'm glad to know your'e on T4R too.

How did the ride differ from stock?
Was there enough room for 285's after all the sagging?

Do you have any pics of the original setup after the sagging and pre bumpers?
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I'm running OME coils and shocks and can tell you that it is much stiffer than stock. I have a friend about a block away with the stock suspension and I feel like I'm in a cadillac riding in his 4Runner after being in mine.

Now with that being said, I don't mind the ride at all in mine. I actually kind of like it. It never bounces over dips and I feel very connected to the road. It turn's flater and handles better too.

I deal with Dallas roads though which are generally pretty smooth, so I could imagine that it would be a different story if I had to drive on some pretty rough pavement.

I don't have any experience with the bilstein / TRD setup but would imagine that it would be stiffer that the stock as well.

Hope this helps.
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Well after Gerdo chimes back in i will make a decision. If these are going to be much stiffer than stock i may go with something far different.. like a 2-2.5 inch spacer and great shocks on my current front springs and add some replacement oem rears, 1.5-2 inch spacer, and good shocks once again.


likely 5100's all round?
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Well after Gerdo chimes back in i will make a decision. If these are going to be much stiffer than stock i may go with something far different.. like a 2-2.5 inch spacer and great shocks on my current front springs and add some replacement oem rears, 1.5-2 inch spacer, and good shocks once again.


likely 5100's all round?
I'm following this thread since I'm kind of looking for the same thing. I love my plush ride on my stock suspension but need about a 1" lift. I'm thinking the Daystar top spacer with new studs is the way for me to go but curious to see what ppl come up with for you.
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I'm following this thread since I'm kind of looking for the same thing. I love my plush ride on my stock suspension but need about a 1" lift. I'm thinking the Daystar top spacer with new studs is the way for me to go but curious to see what ppl come up with for you.
Do a body lift. It will keep your ride exactly the same and you can choose the exact height you want to lift it.
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Just don't go with the Bilstein HDs - yellow/blue they are great for handling but will beat the $hiet out of you on rough roads....

Use the Bilstein 5100s in front and 5125s in the rear.
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I'm running the Tundra Strut Assemblies with a Toytec Top plate spacer in the front, and LC 8 Wrap coils and some 2.5" Skyjacker lift shocks.

This pic was taken immediately after installing the lift:



Now it has settle some,



The ride is not too bad. I find the front soaks up the dips in the road, it's a bit bouncy, but I think that's just a sign that my Recycled Tundra Struts getting tired. The back rides pretty nice, but doesn't take a heavy load that well.

Here's a pic of the truck loaded with camping gear, and the Tent Trailer:



That being said, I find it much smoother than my tired stock setup, and the rear is alot smoother than my previous lift (OME 890's).

Shot of the 890's with my Toytec 3" Front Spacer lift



The 890's and stock front with Spacer, rode very harsh. The front hit hard, and the rear was very choppy when driving over bumps and turning.

All in all, the Tundra Strut Assemblies / LC 8 Wraps is a good Bang for your buck! I got lucky on the Rear coils, and got them for free. The Tundra struts should have only cost me $160.00, but had to buy them from North Dakota, had them shipped to Canada......and it cost me over double that. The shipping is what killed me. You could easily do this lift for $400.00, probably less.......

Hope this helps!
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tundra coils front/bilstein 5100's and LC's and Billsteins in the rear.

its a comfy and capable setup. IMO
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Just don't go with the Bilstein HDs - yellow/blue they are great for handling but will beat the $hiet out of you on rough roads....

Use the Bilstein 5100s in front and 5125s in the rear.
How do you like the 5125's in the rear?

Are they adjustable?

What is different from them and the 5100's?

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I'm running the Tundra Strut Assemblies with a Toytec Top plate spacer in the front, and LC 8 Wrap coils and some 2.5" Skyjacker lift shocks.


Now it has settle some,



The ride is not too bad. I find the front soaks up the dips in the road, it's a bit bouncy, but I think that's just a sign that my Recycled Tundra Struts getting tired. The back rides pretty nice, but doesn't take a heavy load that well.

Here's a pic of the truck loaded with camping gear, and the Tent Trailer:




Shot of the 890's with my Toytec 3" Front Spacer lift



The 890's and stock front with Spacer, rode very harsh. The front hit hard, and the rear was very choppy when driving over bumps and turning.


Hope this helps!

**This is awesome. And of course this helps!! So what shocks were/are you running during these setups Fightman?

And isn't it true that you can cut down the LC coils to tailor fit your needs? If so then Ill think about those too. I never thought LC's would be for me til now.

**Im looking for it to sit about like you had it pulling the trailer. I guess that means i need an adjustable shock for IF I ever need to pull something? Which I likely never will. How about just spacers for the rear to start with? Are those a solif option? with some 5100's?


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Tundra bilstein 5100's in front with Tundra TRD springs should give you the desired lift and ride. I hear the OME set-ups are very stiff. The Trd Tundras are a nice progressive spring.

The 890's in the back are a little stiff, but not bad. I would pair a rear 5100 Tundra shock with the Landcruiser 7.5 wraps if I was you.
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