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Old 09-22-2021, 07:05 AM #196
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So, they STILL can’t figure it out. They have pulled all the codes from the car but none lead to a solution? I am just so frustrated! Been to the shop n back 3 times. Goes a long way freeway driving no problem but in town going 3 miles will quit and spontaneously restart no problem. This is really weird? Thanks for the feedback!

Does this 4R have an A/M remote start/alarm? This definitely should NOT have re-started itself, and this random shutdown stiff wreaks of a faulty remote starter.


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Thumbs down No A/M remote start all original

So there is no remote start. It was pointed out to me that she noticed it happening when she down shifts, bit not all the time, it is an automatic. She finally took it in the freeway and drove about 10-12 miles. It did not die on the way there but on the way home it died about 5 times in the first section before getting on the freeway and the second time it died she had to pull over and manually shut off and restart. It then died once on the freeway then spontaneously restarted. Cannot consistently replicate the issue? I have LOVED Toyota’s all my life but this has really shaken my faith.
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...spontaneously just die.

...a month goes by and now it just died for no reason, loss of all mechanical and electrical full stop.

...They clean the throttle body and off we go and they are stumped as well.

...BOOM it dies 4 times and each time it starts up again ON IT'S OWN! I did not even have time to turn the key off before it starts again?
Probably an ignition switch issue.

The idiots who charged you for throttle-body cleaning as a supposed remedy for this issue are nothing but thieves. The idea that anything relating to the cleanliness of the throttle body has anything to do with the vehicle spontaneously shutting off or re-starting is beyond absurd. It is fraud.

The vehicles are wired such that once you turn the key to full crank position, you don't actually have to hold the key to the full crank position in order to cause the starter to keep turning until the engine fires. I don't care for that feature, but it is fundamental to understanding why your vehicle is cranking all by itself.

The only reasonable explanation is that the ignition switch is failing (internally) such that the switch activates the FULL CRANK POSITION without you actually turning the key to that position.

Similarly, since we are operating on the notion that the ignition switch is the culprit here, it is equally logical that the failing switch will fall (internally) to the IGNITION OFF position just as easily as it will fall to the FULL CRANK position.

The switch could be tested with a multimeter for correct operation in the various positions. Jostling the switch during testing may cause cause it to move to unintended positions, and may verify this to be the cause of the erratic behavior.

Frankly, I feel so certain that it is a failing mechanical switch that has seen long use in an old vehicle, I would just replace the switch, and I would lay strong odds this will cause the problem to cease. At worst, the problem remains and you have a new switch on your old vehicle, and you have elimintated the switch as a suspect.

Lastly, you DO NOT want to be taking that old vehicle to the TOYOTA DEALERSHIP for service. They are the absolute worst at helping owners of older vehicles. Just look at how they robbed you on that "throttle body service" for something that even a first-year technician should have immediately identified as an electrical issue.

If you are going to keep old vehicles, you must make it your life's mission to find an INDEPENDENT REPAIR SHOP that has competent technicians who are willing to work on older vehicles. Such shops do not advertise, and they always have long wait-times for service. If you are going to keep old vehicles, you have to accept these long wait times for competent service. Which unfortunately means you need TWO VEHICLES if you are going to use old vehicles as your daily driver. While vehicle A is down, you drive vehicle B. You have to get your head wrapped around the reality that it may take several weeks to get competent repair at an independent shop.

The only reason to take a vehicle to the dealership is for WARRANTY SERVICE.

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Service manuals

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4Runner Service Repair Manual. EWD - Free PDF's
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Been looking for these, thanks OP!
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For whomever was just clicking it, I updated my link in post #110 ... should work again.
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This is what I needed - thanks!!
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this is great stuff thanks for posting!
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Manuals

Anyone else get a plain white screen when they click on the manual links?
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Anyone else get a plain white screen when they click on the manual links?
Links seem dead now.
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Thanks to AdamF and NCTTORA over at 4x4wire.com for putting up links to multiple FSM downloads. Here is what they have that is 4Gen specific:

2003 4Runner FSM

http://www.ezdries.net/Vidpics/4Runn...%204Runner.zip

2003 4Runner wiring diagrams

http://www.ezdries.net/Vidpics/4Runn...%20Diagram.zip

2006 4Runner FSM

http://www.ezdries.net/Vidpics/4Runn...pairManual.zip

Plus a bunch of other stuff here:

Toyota Tacoma/ 4Runner/ Tundra/ FJ Cruiser Factory Service Manual Page
You're a gentleman and a scholar for posting this information which should come with the truck. Next time I buy a vehicle I'll make sure they include the full FSM set. It's so much smoother and enjoyable to work on your vehicle without browsing the internet and endless forums for hours to find simple information! Anyone other gentleman out there have the 2010-2013 FSM's? I use the 2016-2020 which is great and mostly the same but would be in love with the one for my year especially the electrical section. Anyone know something?
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Digital factory repair manual for $30 is a fair deal. I ordered one. I'll let you know if it is anything other than what it is advertised as.
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Digital factory repair manual for $30 is a fair deal. I ordered one. I'll let you know if it is anything other than what it is advertised as.
Where is the electrical section!!! F_ck been looking for years.
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