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Okay anyone got suggestion in tires? removing XREAS adding 5100s all around with fronts set at 2.5 and 1.5" daystar spacer in rear...265/70-17 new pro comp wheels w 0 offset...looking at new cooper stt pros - thoughts?
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12-06-2015, 01:17 PM
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On RealTruck.com there is a kit that is the 4inch spindles with rear 2.5 springs, I can't find anyone on here running that with the rear springs.. Any feedback?
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12-06-2015, 01:54 PM
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98 4runner SR5 2WD- Shocks & Springs Insight
Hey guys, I have a question: I have a 98' 4Runner SR5 2WD & I'm looking to put new shocks & springs all the way around. What would be a good route to take as far as an upgrade for a height difference & smoother ride difference. Factory Tacoma, Sequoia, Land Cruiser? Thanks!
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12-06-2015, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MN4RNR
No problem. It is a confusing decision and one you don't want to go back and have to fix. I used a full OME kit on my 06/V6. My build is here "Sammy" Build and Exploration Thread
I did wanted some lift but not the 3" that is common. I initially went with the 884/895e springs. I like where the rear sat but the front looked and felt nose high. Axle to wheel well numbers showed about 1/4" or so of rake though if IIRC. I also didn't like the angles I was seeing under the front end. I contacted ARB who advised that the 895e rear springs are meant to be paired with the 883 fronts. I made the swap and like the stance much better. It dropped me about 1" in the front and gave me about 1" of rake.
For technicalities. 883, 884, 885 are all the same spring rates each is approximately .5" taller in height. From my reading and my experience physical height difference in springs or spacers in the front yields double the change in ride height. So my .5" spring height difference yielded my 1" difference in height. I believe the 895/895e is the same story. Same spring rate just different height.
In my experience and from seeing other people's threads the net lift numbers ARB/OME provide are a pipe dream. Although I forgot to measure before hand, based on measuring identical year/package trucks and from data from the site that the 884 actually showed me about a 30.5+" lift in the front. 883 is at about 2.5" I ordered from Toytec but talked to Wheelers as well. Both techs said my initial setup would be fine. I obviously didn't agree after it was all said and done. Slee has my setup listed as their low lift for the 4th Gens. I suggested to both Toytec and Wheelers that since they offer the 895e as a package build option that, based on ARB's advise, they also put the 883 springs in as an option. I had to go searching and they carry them but I think they were listed in the Tacoma section. I do not know if they ever considered my suggestion.
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MN4RNR: thanks a LOT for that! I also read your thread on the Sammy build.
I want my 08 sport to come out looking more or less like yours.
In the "how Sammy looks now" pic, is that with the 255/75/17 tires? They look smaller to me.
Right now the 4R has the stock 265/65/17s. My plan is to get the suspension done first as the OEM shocks/struts are pretty shot. Then probably next summer replace the tires and go to 265/70/17. SO, the suspension job might look a tad funny at first as it'll be with the smaller tires. My hope is that it will "fill in" and look how I want it to look after I get the new rubber.
I like the way your 883/895e combo turned out. What do you think about going with the 884/895 combo with 265/70/17 tires? If I encoded what you wrote properly, the 884 are 0.5 inches taller than the 883s, however in reality the lift will "double" giving the 884s about and inch more lift than the 883? Did I read that right?
In reality (dismissing what is one the OME website) it looks like the 884/895 combo will yield about a 3" lift in the front and 2" in the rear? For comparison sake OME says the 884 will raise the front 1" and the 895 will raise the rear 2".
I want to end up with a bit of a rake, not equal height in both wheel wells. When I load up the back with camping gear and hook up our quad or boat trailer, I don't want the rear to look saggy.
Right now, although I hate how low the front end is, is does level out half decent with some weight in the rear of the 4 runner and some weight on the hitch.
Also you said the 884 gave you 30.5 in the front, I'm assuming you meant 3.5?
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12-06-2015, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 4VegasRunner
Hey guys, I have a question: I have a 98' 4Runner SR5 2WD & I'm looking to put new shocks & springs all the way around. What would be a good route to take as far as an upgrade for a height difference & smoother ride difference. Factory Tacoma, Sequoia, Land Cruiser? Thanks!
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You should probably be checking the 3rd gen section of this forum (this is the 4th gen section and your asking about a an older model). Also, there are stickies at the top of the page that will answer most suspension questions so it's worth the read.
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12-06-2015, 10:42 PM
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Hello. I purchased a 2003 SR5 2wd v8 this weekend. It has 197000 miles and the stock front springs are shot. Not much clearance to the bump stops and current rake is 3 inches. I'm trying to stay on a budget and want to replace the front springs and add a spacer to level. 1). Anyone seen this amount of sag before? 2). Care to take a stab at the lowest cost set of springs and the correct spacer to level? Currently the rear is at 36inch and the front is at 32.5 inch. Rear tires are new and .5 inch taller. Any input welcome and thank in advance. Todd
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12-06-2015, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by todd230
Hello. I purchased a 2003 SR5 2wd v8 this weekend. It has 197000 miles and the stock front springs are shot. Not much clearance to the bump stops and current rake is 3 inches. I'm trying to stay on a budget and want to replace the front springs and add a spacer to level. 1). Anyone seen this amount of sag before? 2). Care to take a stab at the lowest cost set of springs and the correct spacer to level? Currently the rear is at 36inch and the front is at 32.5 inch. Rear tires are new and .5 inch taller. Any input welcome and thank in advance. Todd
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If the springs are sagging that bad go on rockauto and order front springs for an FJ cruiser. This will get you back up where you belong and give you an extra 1/2" lift on the front. They're like $35-$45 depending on the brand.
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12-06-2015, 11:13 PM
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In the "how Sammy looks now" pic, is that with the 255/75/17 tires? They look smaller to me.
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No. This is current
"Sammy" Build and Exploration Thread
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If I encoded what you wrote properly, the 884 are 0.5 inches taller than the 883s, however in reality the lift will "double" giving the 884s about and inch more lift than the 883? Did I read that right?
Also you said the 884 gave you 30.5 in the front, I'm assuming you meant 3.5?
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Yes and yes. Corrected the post. With 884s up front I concur that the 895 is the rear would be the optimal choice. Remember those springs are quite a bit more stout than your stock ones so I am assuming you will see less sag than you do now...and it rides so nice loaded.
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12-06-2015, 11:18 PM
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I'm okay with slightly stiffer, but don't want it to ride too stiff. How about a spacer for that combo? 1 inch? Appreciate the quick feedback. Looking at the suspension thread seems there are a lot of options.
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If the springs are sagging that bad go on rockauto and order front springs for an FJ cruiser. This will get you back up where you belong and give you an extra 1/2" lift on the front. They're like $35-$45 depending on the brand.
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12-06-2015, 11:37 PM
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I'm okay with slightly stiffer, but don't want it to ride too stiff. How about a spacer for that combo? 1 inch? Appreciate the quick feedback. Looking at the suspension thread seems there are a lot of options.
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Spacer will work of you want more, or you can go with bilstein 5100 shocks and set them for the lift you want. 5100's will control better than stock too. FJ coils will give you a slightly higher spring rate, but after 2 days I couldn't tell the difference in the rear. It's been a month now and I never notice them anymore. They were definitely an improvement over stock!
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12-07-2015, 01:39 PM
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I am looking at Enkei st6 wheels in the following size with 275/65/18 tires.
Any able to comment on fitment?
Size:18x8.5
Offset:+10mm
Backspacing:5.12"
Bolt Pattern:6-139
Rec. Tire Size:265/60-18
Weight:29.0 lbs.
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12-07-2015, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by subspd
I am looking at Enkei st6 wheels in the following size with 275/65/18 tires.
Any able to comment on fitment?
Size:18x8.5
Offset:+10mm
Backspacing:5.12"
Bolt Pattern:6-139
Rec. Tire Size:265/60-18
Weight:29.0 lbs.
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Here's a screenshot of what it does. Will be 1.25 inches wider than stock, close to stock fitment on the inside of the tire. You may need to trim the body mount, but you won't know until you put them on. Also I'm sure there will be a slight need to pull that stupid fender liner forward as well. I don't remember what you have done already.
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12-08-2015, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MN4RNR
No. This is current
"Sammy" Build and Exploration Thread
Yes and yes. Corrected the post. With 884s up front I concur that the 895 is the rear would be the optimal choice. Remember those springs are quite a bit more stout than your stock ones so I am assuming you will see less sag than you do now...and it rides so nice loaded. |
Thanks for that! Awesome. I'd like to start a new thread specific to this ARB application but I don't think I have enough posts yet. Would be nice to hear from a few other ppl who have gone with ARB springs and shocks on this gen of 4Runner. I think I probably have enough info anyway to make an educated decision.
MN4: I can't get the pics to open on my stupid work computer but i'll look at them later at home.
I'm leaning toward the 884/895 combo. Seems that the final lift #'s will vary vehicle to vehicle. I'd rather err on the side of a little more lift than I wanted than a little less lift than I wanted.
In the fall hunting season we often drive on pretty crappy roads. Big ruts and so on. Would be nice to get that front skid plate up as high as possible without the lift looking silly.
Plan is to get the OME suspension work done, ride out the existing Cooper Discoverer AT3 tires in 265/65/17 until the spring/summer, and then replace them with 265/70/17s. Wouldn't get the Cooper's again, but that's another discussion for another day.
The lift might look a bit funny with the stock size tires but I can handle it for a few months.
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12-13-2015, 01:56 PM
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Looking for lots of feedback!!
Okay so Im hoping I can get a lot of feedback! I have a 2WD 4runner, it is my DD and I only take it offroad about 2 times a month. Right now I have a daystar 2.5 front and 1.5 back spacers, and I want to make my 4runner taller. I'm just a college kid so i don't have a lot of money to spent. Here is just a few options
1. Just bigger tires
2. Toytec spacer with rear springs + bigger tires
3. Something with spindles + bigger tires
4. Toytec Kit -coilovers with bilsteins all around and rear springs + bigger tires
Basically I am trying to find a setup that would give me the most height for the money. I hope this makes sense.
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12-13-2015, 02:03 PM
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Okay so Im hoping I can get a lot of feedback! I have a 2WD 4runner, it is my DD and I only take it offroad about 2 times a month. Right now I have a daystar 2.5 front and 1.5 back spacers, and I want to make my 4runner taller. I'm just a college kid so i don't have a lot of money to spent. Here is just a few options
1. Just bigger tires
2. Toytec spacer with rear springs + bigger tires
3. Something with spindles + bigger tires
4. Toytec Kit -coilovers with bilsteins all around and rear springs + bigger tires
Basically I am trying to find a setup that would give me the most height for the money. I hope this makes sense.
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Lift spindles for the front, lift springs for rear. Can throw spacer on top if still need more height.
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