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Old 07-03-2019, 03:46 PM #3376
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Hey guys. I reached out to a lift website with questions on if I should go with Toytec superflex for the back since the stiffness is so much closer to stock versus the 895e and I got this reply.

Well,
Actually Bilstein shocks and OME springs are a bad combination, the
reason why is because Bilstein shocks use a digressive valve system
which means "the faster you go, the softer they get" and OME springs are
designed to carry weight.
So if you mix a "stiffer" spring with a "softer shock it will be like
mixing water and oil and at that point the shock won't perform as
designed and the spring won't hold the weight properly.
ARB, OME, Bilstein and some other companies DO NOT recommend that
combination at all and all warranties will be voided from both
manufacturers

Whats your thoughts because there's tons of people on these forums that have mix matched. Furthermore would y'all recommend OME 884 for front and Superflex for the back? Since my back won't have much added weight except when traveling to camp I figured the additional weight scales wasn't needed. Thanks for help on this stuff.


They don't even know what digressive valving means. Or how springs work.
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I did the 3” package, the rear springs are rated for medium load since we off road a lot but rarely pack heavy


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Ok, just looking for suggestions and there is just too many options/combos. Here is what I have: 06 4 runner sport that I will be deleting the Xreas system. It is a v6 2wd. It has daystar 2.5/1.5 that I would like to remove but keep the height at 2.75 all the way around. I do have a bit of driver lean. I am running 275/65r18 duratracs. I rarely off road but do pull a boat at about 2800-3000lbs. The truck has 175k on everything original except the LCA/UCA/Stabilizer/sway bars up front. Would like to replace shocks springs that will give me a good ride while towing and give like 2.75 lift. Thoughts?
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Oops. Thanks for catching that and for the info.
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Need advise on levelling kit
2003 4Runner LTD V8 with RAS
XREAS removed bilstien HD installed

Looking at 2.5 levelling kit and bfg ko2 265/70/17

Anything I need to watch for?

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2003 4Runner LTD V8 with RAS
XREAS removed bilstien HD installed

Looking at 2.5 levelling kit and bfg ko2 265/70/17

Anything I need to watch for?

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Tires rubbing on sway bar
I just installed a toytech 3inch lift kit and SPC UCAs on my 04 and when I turn the wheel to full lock I can feel them rubbing significantly on the front sway bar. I am currently running 265/70 BFG ko2, I had these before I installed the lift and O never experienced any issues with rubbing on the sway bar. I haven't had an alignment yet and i'm wondering if any one else has had this issue and if I need spacers to fix the problem.
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Ill try..but i have more of an understanding of suspension from MTBs and Motos then cars/trucks but i think the fundamental bits are applicable in theory.

So what their saying is that the bilstein is digressive meaning its valved to become softer as the shock progresses thru its stroke. The OME springs/struts is linear or progressively sprung/valved meaning it gets harder as they progress thru their stroke in order to carry additional weight beyond OE amounts for bumpers and such.

So by combining a digressive strut with a linear/progressive spring you're going in opposite directions when you want to pair digressive with digressive and linear with linear so the rebound/compression/frequencies are similar throughout the struts/shocks stroke and the coils travel.

If your set on going the bilstein route pair them with digressive coil springs. You might have to check with the dealer/manufacturer to find out if the springs are digressive or not though. Other wise you might look at OME or Dobinson linear struts/shocks. Not sure if this helps ....
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I just installed a toytech 3inch lift kit and SPC UCAs on my 04 and when I turn the wheel to full lock I can feel them rubbing significantly on the front sway bar. I am currently running 265/70 BFG ko2, I had these before I installed the lift and O never experienced any issues with rubbing on the sway bar. I haven't had an alignment yet and i'm wondering if any one else has had this issue and if I need spacers to fix the problem.


You probably need a sway bar relocate. Can be found on toytec website


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Ive read hundreds of posts here with mixed answers and all slightly different lift results.
I was wondering if someone could give me some advice here.

I just purchased a 2005 4Runner Sport v8 with 59k miles.
It has Xreas currently so i opted for the toytec 2.5” spacer in the front and 1.5” lift in the rear
Front hub center to fender is measuring 21.25”
Rear Hub center to fender is measuring 22.25”

My question is this.
Planning on getting the SCS Ray 10 in 17x8.5 with -10 offset so i was curious what size tires i could fit without tons of rubbing issues
275/70/17 in the BFGoodrich KO2 is only offered in E rating so I’d like to step up to the 285/70/17 C rated Duratrac if possible but not if its going to require a body mount chop.

Also Would there be an advantage for me to go to the -38 offset wheels?

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Ive read hundreds of posts here with mixed answers and all slightly different lift results.
I was wondering if someone could give me some advice here.

I just purchased a 2005 4Runner Sport v8 with 59k miles.
It has Xreas currently so i opted for the toytec 2.5” spacer in the front and 1.5” lift in the rear
Front hub center to fender is measuring 21.25”
Rear Hub center to fender is measuring 22.25”

My question is this.
Planning on getting the SCS Ray 10 in 17x8.5 with -10 offset so i was curious what size tires i could fit without tons of rubbing issues
275/70/17 in the BFGoodrich KO2 is only offered in E rating so I’d like to step up to the 285/70/17 C rated Duratrac if possible but not if its going to require a body mount chop.

Also Would there be an advantage for me to go to the -38 offset wheels?

Thank you


With that mild of a lift and -10 with 285’s you’re gonna have to chop the mount. It sounds like a bigger deal than it is. Any shop that isn’t trying to gouge you should only charge about $30 to do it. If you’re unwilling then consider smaller tires, I’m not sure if 275’s will fit as I’ve never run them. I have the Ray 10’s in the -38 and 285 AT3W’s and they took quite a bit of work to make them fit.

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Ok, just looking for suggestions and there is just too many options/combos. Here is what I have: 06 4 runner sport that I will be deleting the Xreas system. It is a v6 2wd. It has daystar 2.5/1.5 that I would like to remove but keep the height at 2.75 all the way around. I do have a bit of driver lean. I am running 275/65r18 duratracs. I rarely off road but do pull a boat at about 2800-3000lbs. The truck has 175k on everything original except the LCA/UCA/Stabilizer/sway bars up front. Would like to replace shocks springs that will give me a good ride while towing and give like 2.75 lift. Thoughts?
I would just do a OME lift kit with soft valving shocks for a nice daily! Let me know if you have any questions! Anthony at Toyteclifts here and we always have special deals for forum members!
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I would just do a OME lift kit with soft valving shocks for a nice daily! Let me know if you have any questions! Anthony at Toyteclifts here and we always have special deals for forum members!
Should have mentioned that this is more of a weekend utility ride. Ride quality is important but more so when pulling. Would this change your recommendation? Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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What 2.5" suspension lift kit combination should I get while retaining quality ride for my 08 SR5 and to fit 265/70R17 tires without rubbing issues?
Will it require sway bar relocation kit?
Will it require longer sway bar link if not installing sway bar relocation kit?

Expert advice please!

Thank you and more power...
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What 2.5" suspension lift kit combination should I get while retaining quality ride for my 08 SR5 and to fit 265/70R17 tires without rubbing issues?
Will it require sway bar relocation kit?
Will it require longer sway bar link if not installing sway bar relocation kit?

Expert advice please!

Thank you and more power...
You can fit 265/70/17 without a lift BTW and you won't have rubbing issues. Did you mean 285s?

General recommendations are the Toytec/Boss lift, yes get a sway bar relocate, longer sway bar links or disconnectable sway bar links are far more expensive than a relocate.
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