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i am very curious why do you need a lot of trimming on 4" lift !! i have read your build thread, seems you have done a hell of a job over there.
I'm rubbing some even on road, mainly the rear portion of the front fenderwell (behind where the mud flaps were). Many claim to be fitting them with minor trimming, but even still minor trimming was involved. Thanks!
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Is it possible to not run the spacers with 285 70's with a 3 inch lift? Went through a few pages and didn't see anything
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Is it possible to not run the spacers with 285 70's with a 3 inch lift? Went through a few pages and didn't see anything
I believe you can but only if you have aftermarket UCAs because from what I've read 285's will rub on the stock UCA
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Is it possible to not run the spacers with 285 70's with a 3 inch lift? Went through a few pages and didn't see anything
You will have to have wheel spacers. Even with Light Racing UCAs I can't come close to getting my 285 bolted on without spacers.
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You will have to have wheel spacers. Even with Light Racing UCAs I can't come close to getting my 285 bolted on without spacers.
Let me make sure i got it right, 285 70's can not be fitted to 2.5" lift suspension alone and requires spacers + UCA's, right!!
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Let me make sure i got it right, 285 70's can not be fitted to 2.5" lift suspension alone and requires spacers + UCA's, right!!
There are a couple issues.

1. The 285 is too wide to fit with stock wheels, it will rub the UCA. Wheel spacers are required to push the tire out away from the UCA.
2. With only 2.5" lift, I'd expect a lot of rubbing. They can be made to fit, but it's going to take some work.

UCAs aren't required. Aftermarket UCAs give a little more clearance than stock, but in my case it still wasn't enough. If you want 285's, my suggestion is to get some 1" wheel spacers and a 1" body lift. This will be the easiest and cheapest way to fit 285's on your rig without a lot of headaches.
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You will have to have wheel spacers. Even with Light Racing UCAs I can't come close to getting my 285 bolted on without spacers.
Great thanks, I ordered the 1.25 spidertrax spacers
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When i had my spacers on i was extremely close to the body mount in the front but rear of the fender. Mainly because of the 0 offset Methods. Now that im taller in the front how close would you think i'd be. I want to get them again and see if they'd work.

The fact people fit 285s with the same amount of lift makes me think ill be fine. Im at 38" up front on 265/70/17s and they're pretty heavily worn.
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Ark,
Your posts are very informative. I was hoping to trouble you by asking for some suggestions?

I just bought a 2006 4Runner Sport for my soon to be 16 year old son. Prior to giving it to him, I would like to do some mods. The problem is I am a complete idiot when it comes to mods. Here is what I am looking to do:

Lift/Level kit- he has mentioned 3" but not stuck on that height. Don't want to disable the XREAS.

The largest/widest tire I can fit in without any trimming etc. (above my ability)

A quality tire that will last that is aggressive looking. He likes the over the shoulder tread like on the Toyo trail grappler

Will be changing out the stock rims. (Would like to stay with the same size to ensure the spedo remains accurate.

It will be his daily driver and driven almost exclusively on road (of course I am sure a 16yo will take it off road without my knowledge .
Really just looking to hook him up with a really cool 4runner.

What would be your suggestions ( I understand tastes vary)?
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Ark,
Your posts are very informative. I was hoping to trouble you by asking for some suggestions?

I just bought a 2006 4Runner Sport for my soon to be 16 year old son. Prior to giving it to him, I would like to do some mods. The problem is I am a complete idiot when it comes to mods. Here is what I am looking to do:

Lift/Level kit- he has mentioned 3" but not stuck on that height. Don't want to disable the XREAS.

The largest/widest tire I can fit in without any trimming etc. (above my ability)

A quality tire that will last that is aggressive looking. He likes the over the shoulder tread like on the Toyo trail grappler

Will be changing out the stock rims. (Would like to stay with the same size to ensure the spedo remains accurate.

It will be his daily driver and driven almost exclusively on road (of course I am sure a 16yo will take it off road without my knowledge .
Really just looking to hook him up with a really cool 4runner.

What would be your suggestions ( I understand tastes vary)?
Being 17 I could probably give a little insight as to what he may want. First off I believe the only lift you could go with while keeping XREAS is the Daystar Spacer Lift which is a 2.5" spacer up front and 1.5" In the rear. With that lift for tires I would consider either those Trail Graps, or the BF Goodrich KM1's which are the tires that come stock on a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. They are a 32" Tire that are listed as size 255/70/17. They are quite easy to find as many Rubicon owners lift their rigs and get bigger tires and lift their stockers on Craigslist. For rims my personal favorites are the KMC XD Series Addicts, the Method Standards, Stealth Custom Series Stealth 6, and the ATX Crawl. If you choose to lose the XREAS as most do, the Toytec Website has options, as well as Metaltech for full kits that are 3" of lift.
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how much would be a fair price to pay for some fj coils off an 07 4x4
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how much would be a fair price to pay for some fj coils off an 07 4x4
Anywhere between FREE to $100 for all four. I paid $75 plus shipping for mine.
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how much would be a fair price to pay for some fj coils off an 07 4x4
I paid $50 shipped for front coils only. They were off a 2012 TT with 500 miles.
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Anywhere between FREE to $100 for all four. I paid $75 plus shipping for mine.
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I paid $50 shipped for front coils only. They were off a 2012 TT with 500 miles.
cool... thanks guys
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When i had my spacers on i was extremely close to the body mount in the front but rear of the fender. Mainly because of the 0 offset Methods. Now that im taller in the front how close would you think i'd be. I want to get them again and see if they'd work.

The fact people fit 285s with the same amount of lift makes me think ill be fine. Im at 38" up front on 265/70/17s and they're pretty heavily worn.
What is the measurement from the center of the hub to the fenderwell? That means a lot more than fender to ground since it isn't affected by tire size. Were you running the Methods and wheel spacers? Remember, you suspension cycles up and down. So even though at rest it sits higher, if you aren't dropping bump stops to limit up travel, it can still rub. On my setup, I haven't noticed any issues with the body mount, it's all in the plastic behind the mud flap.

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Ark,
Your posts are very informative. I was hoping to trouble you by asking for some suggestions?

I just bought a 2006 4Runner Sport for my soon to be 16 year old son. Prior to giving it to him, I would like to do some mods. The problem is I am a complete idiot when it comes to mods. Here is what I am looking to do:

Lift/Level kit- he has mentioned 3" but not stuck on that height. Don't want to disable the XREAS.

The largest/widest tire I can fit in without any trimming etc. (above my ability)

A quality tire that will last that is aggressive looking. He likes the over the shoulder tread like on the Toyo trail grappler

Will be changing out the stock rims. (Would like to stay with the same size to ensure the spedo remains accurate.

It will be his daily driver and driven almost exclusively on road (of course I am sure a 16yo will take it off road without my knowledge .
Really just looking to hook him up with a really cool 4runner.

What would be your suggestions ( I understand tastes vary)?
For the lift, any spacer lift will do. The main two options that come to mind are the Daystar 2.5" front / 1.5" rear and the Toytec 3" front / 2" rear. The Daystar is much cheaper and easier to install, and IMO the 1/2" is hardly noticeable. I also don't see that 1/2" making a huge difference in what tires will fit.

I really don't suggest a mud/off road tire, but that's just my opinion. You loose street performance, gain road noise, and typically spend much more money. Look into the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs. They are much better on the street than any mud tire but still have the aggressive look.

You will want to get wheels that have similar offset/backspacing as stock to minimize rubbing. Many get wheels that will push the tire out even with the fender, but this will increase the probability of rubbing. With stock spec'd wheels, a 275/70/17 would be the biggest/widest that would fit. Every vehicle is different, but with stock spec'd wheels these should not rub. If they do, the front fender liner will need moved forward and possibly remove the front mud flaps. If this concerns you, you better stick with 265/70/17. There are not many tires available in a 275/70/17, but if you decide to get 18" wheels there are a lot available in the equivalent size (275/65/18). The size of the wheels should not affect the speedo, but going with larger tires will.

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As others have said, anywhere from free to $100, depending on mileage. If I were paying $100, it'd have to be 15k miles or less. There are way too many out there for sale to pay more than that.
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