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Old 10-14-2023, 05:02 AM #4231
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*Most* mfgs say that to let you buy their shocks. However, in very few cases they do have a point. Here's an example:

The lightest OME rear spring has 260 lbf/in spring rate (that's about 45% higher than stock rate), and most other aftermarket entry level shocks don't quite have enough damping for them. For example, 5100 rear is really tuned for stock-ish spring rate, so around 200lb is the sweet spot. Even with lightest OME springs 5100 is simply not enough to dampen them over speedbumps, deep dips, etc. It will make your car more bouncy in some cases, even though 5100 can give higher damping force compared to stock shocks.

The whole "you have to get our shocks to run our springs" is very situational, but not just marketing trick. I think Tacoma shocks are probably fine for Eibach springs, since they usually don't deviate too much from stock rate or they would clearly mark them. That's just something you might consider before getting new springs. BTW OME front coils are only about 10-20% heavier than stock, which is ok for most stock replacement front shocks.
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I'm certain its been discussed before but I am wrapping up my research on a 3" lift (probably from Toytec but maybe OME) for my 4WD V6 and need one final piece of information; Is it worth it to get HD springs on the rear?
I don't have any additional weight like bumpers or a roof rack, but I tow rather frequently with my Runner, usually no more than 1-2000lbs but often over long distances (1000 miles or more) with camping gear, motorcycles, golf cart, as well as local deliveries of plywood and lumber etc. for my construction work. So while I am pretty much stock weight normally its not uncommon for me to add tongue weight on the back end, and a bumper & rack are on my radar for upgrades in the next 2 years. I don't do a lot of dedicated off-roading except on construction sites but my current stock-height shocks are worn out and if I'm going to replace them anyway I might as well lift it ya know?
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I'm a dealer for OME, Eibach, Dobinson, etc. Eibach and Dobinson I've had great luck with. If anyone is considering these, Call/text me at 717-319-2100 and I'll do what I can to help.

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I've been running an Icon Stage 1 lift for my 4Runner for the past few years.

I've been hearing good things about the new OME lift, and Dobbinsons.

From anyone coming from an Icon lift, what differences have you noticed?

From anyone running an OME or Dobbinsons lift, how do you like them and which one did you get?

I'll be grabbing a new lift in the next month, so I'm doing my research before I pull the trigger.
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I'm certain its been discussed before but I am wrapping up my research on a 3" lift (probably from Toytec but maybe OME) for my 4WD V6 and need one final piece of information; Is it worth it to get HD springs on the rear?
I don't have any additional weight like bumpers or a roof rack, but I tow rather frequently with my Runner, usually no more than 1-2000lbs but often over long distances (1000 miles or more) with camping gear, motorcycles, golf cart, as well as local deliveries of plywood and lumber etc. for my construction work. So while I am pretty much stock weight normally its not uncommon for me to add tongue weight on the back end, and a bumper & rack are on my radar for upgrades in the next 2 years. I don't do a lot of dedicated off-roading except on construction sites but my current stock-height shocks are worn out and if I'm going to replace them anyway I might as well lift it ya know?
Thanks for the feedback.
If you're not planning on installing a rear steel bumper with tire carrier and/or roof rack with tent then you should, IMO, go with medium springs. I did go with HD front and back on mine but I do carry a lot including full camping build-out in the trunk plus steel bumper with swing outs for tire carrier, hi-lift, etc.. Without any additional weight front or back the ride is horrible. Stiff as heck.
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Eibach Stage 2 Kit

Anyone have experience with the stage 2 set. I'm just seeing them on the Eibach website and TEQ Customs. Only two places I've seen them. Wondering if they are worth the extra $ over the Stage 1 kit. I've been reading all these threads trying to decide on Eibach vs. Bilstein, which I know is a common discussion.
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4Runner to FJ swap question

Hey, everyone, I found a good deal on what appears to be most of the suspension parts from a 2007 FJ but the description is a little vague so I want to make sure it will all work on my 4Runner (2005 Limited V8 with X-REAS). They already sold the rear coil springs but everything else looks OK and the seller calls the parts "OEM". Can anyone ID the parts by sight?
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**************************Tire Size/Fitment**************************

Thanks to gaterose for providing the following information.
What does it take to fit x tire with x lift?
Front/Rear Lift Tire Size
Stock -
265/65R17
265/70R17* (except BFG A/T)

1/0
265/70R17* (31.6x10.4)
255/75R17 (32 x 10)


2/1
265/70R17
255/75R17

3/2
275/70R17 (32.2 x 10.8)
285/70R17† (32.6 x 11.2)
255/80R17* (33 x 10)

3/2 + 1-1.5" Body Lift
255/85R17† (34 x 10)
285/70R17†
305/65R17† (32.6 x 12)

* requires removal of mud flaps and probably minor trimming
† requires trimming and may require body mount chop (click here for details on body mount chop), upper control arms, and/or increased backspacing.

Add 5 to the middle number for 16" wheels, subtract 5 for 18" wheels (265/75R16=265/70R17=265/65R18)

The above assumes you're using stock wheels and no wheel spacers. Aftermarket wheels or wheel spacers will increase rubbing, more trimming will need to be done in order to fit the listed size.

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Two questions...appreciate any advice....

In a few weeks I'm removing the Xreas system on my '08 Limited V8 and replacing with Bilstein 5100s in the front and 4600s in the rear...keeping the rear airbags as they're working great and in very good condition. I'm planning on raising/leveling the front to notch 1 (.85) but I'm reading where a lot of people have chosen notch 3 (1.75). Does the fact that I'm keeping the airbags instead of swapping out for springs make one setting more "level" than the other? I'm seeing a lot of people's opinions but not many with the airbags. I'm aiming for a "stock" but more level stance.

I'm also looking to replace my worn out OEM 18" wheels with 17" (17x7) TRD wheels. The offest on these is 4mm vs the 18"s 25mm. Here's where I get a bit confused. In the guide above the 265/70R17* (31.6x10.4) show that they will likely require the removal of the front mud flaps. Am I to assume this is due to their .4" (10.16mm) greater width than the 255/75R17 (32 x 10)? If I'm switching to the TRD wheels that have a 4mm offset does this create even more rubbing issues or less, due to the "wider" stance of the 4mm? I really do not want to "trim" or modify the wheel well or remove mud flaps but it's challenging to order things in advance for the project without knowing for sure. I've never swapped out wheels or suspensions on any vehicle before so I'm learning on the fly.

Again...any advice/help is appreciated.
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I'm very happy with my Eibach springs. Solid product, great customer service, and the truck is fun to drive on and off road. They do have a disclaimer on their rear springs but can it really be true?

"Must be used with Eibach Pro-Truck Sport Rear Shocks."

Or what? I have the shocks and they're...well, shocks, there's nothing fundamentally different from any other shock I've had. Am I missing something? This strikes me as how manufacturers say, "Always service your vehicle with genuine Toyota parts." Maybe they won't honor the warranty otherwise? If anyone has any insight on why the Eibach statement could possibly be accurate, please chime in.

Bluesky 07, Thanks for your input on all things 4th gen.

I just got one a few weeks ago. '03 SR5 V8 w/ 170k.

One of the first things I'm doing is replacing the CV axles. While I've got it apart, I am going to do some other wear items like brakes and suspension. I picked up some new Tru Drive (off brand?) 2015 Tacoma coilovers on FBMP for cheap. I'm thinking of using 3rd gen Taco UCAs also. I’ll probably go ahead and replace anything that gets touched. I'll do rear soon but later.

My questions for anyone are as follows:

1. Does the above sound directionally correct?
2. Anyone got a good list of parts that have to be loosened? Seems like a good time to do tie rod ends, links, bushings, etc.
3. I’ve seen enough on this truck to believe new hardware might be appropriate. Anyone know of any premade kit or an existing list of nuts and bolts? Sizes? Link?
4. Keeping budget in mind, what is the most plug and play for rear shock/spring if towing is more important than lift?

This one will be my daily while my 1st gen undergoes powerplant reassignment. It identifies as diesel.4th Gen Suspension Options/FAQ

Until then, I want a comfortable, leveled out, truck that is refreshed over 21 year old OE.

I'll start threads in the appropriate forums on both builds.

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I'm looking at the Eibach Pro Stage 1 kit for my 2008 SR5 V6. It's stock at 180k. I'm curious if going with a taller lift will require other new components?
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I'm looking at the Eibach Pro Stage 1 kit for my 2008 SR5 V6. It's stock at 180k. I'm curious if going with a taller lift will require other new components?
That’s what I have and it didn’t require anything different. Great setup btw, on and off the pavement, and their customer service is very responsive.
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Hi, I'm looking for some advice or options for my 04 Sport. When I got it 3 years ago I replaced the original suspension with Bilstein 4600s but had the bad lean to the left. Added some spacers in the front and rear but its still leaning a bit. At this point since I've decided to keep the 4runner I'm considering putting in some adjustable shocks with perhaps new springs? Maybe lift it up an inch maybe inch and a half nothing too crazy hopefully fix the lean and level the truck overall.

Was gonna just get the 5100s but I see they are discontinued so now looking at the Eibach Pro E60 82 008 02 01 for the rear and E60 82 008 02 10 for the fronts since they can be adjusted 0 to 2.2. Anyone have any experience with these or any other options that wont break the bank? Was thinking of swapping out the original springs any opinions on others to use? Thanks
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Question installed lift need help

i have bought and *mostly* installed a 3" readylift kit for my runner got new UCA's as i new i would need them and instead of running a spacer in the rear decided to get icon 3" lift springs as well as go ahead and replace all trailing arms and the track bar. WELL i got everything installed but my rear shocks are at full extension with alot of tension and travel left in the springs "i have rancho readylift 5000 shocks" any suggestions on what shocks would have more travel?

i go overlanding and offroad quite often so I want to have the travel in the rear and get my moneys worth out of the trailing arms and springs
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Cool 4th Gen Fox 2 Coil Over Rebuild Denver

I was at House of Mufflers today on Evans and Jim there suggested joining the Forum as he heard of a guy in this area that rebuilds my style Fox coilovers. Any direction you all can offer would be greatly appreciated.

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