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Old 03-31-2020, 10:47 PM #3616
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Thanks for the input - any chance you might have any photos that you could share of your truck with the lift? The Eibach kits seems to be popular with the 5th gen guys, it's been hard to find 4th gens with the kit.

I'll try and snap a picture tomorrow and I'll post it. I don't have any before lift photos for comparison, didn't even think of it!
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Hey everyone - first post after I bought my second 4Runner last weekend. A 2008 Sport Edition V6 with only 80k on the clock.

I use to own a 3rd gen about 10 years ago so I've been slowly buy surely getting back into researching a suspension lift for it. I've got it narrowed down to the final 3 below but looking for some insight. The primary use of the truck will serve as a daily driver with some potentially light weekend off-roading ever now and than, nothing crazy. It will be mainly used as an on road, family hauler.

Below is my current list of suspension choices and I'd love to get some feedback from current T4R owners on which they would choose for my overall needs.

1. 3" Toytec/Bilstein setup - The most expensive option but it seems to be a favorite in the Toyota world.

2. Eibach Pro-Truck Kit Stage 1 - Less expensive option, reputable company, not quite as much lift.

3. 3"/2" spacer lift - The 'budget boost' would allow for the most cost effective option. I might even consider upgrading to OME 895 w/ Bilstein struts in the rear instead of spacers.

Those are the current options I am considering. I feel for the primary use of the truck option 3 makes the most sense but I wanted to see what others thought as well before I start ordering parts. Thanks in advance! Good to be back in a T4R!
I went with Bilstein 6112 setup. Lifted the rear 1.5" with the B12 springs, front 2.5". I could had gone another notch and gained another 1/4-1/2" in front. It drives phenomenal on the street so far. Very planted, but doesn't feel like a 1 ton truck. Actually pretty surprised how compliant it is. Coupled with the 265/70-17 K02s it drives nicely. I am debating on doing the same setup on my other 4runner or going with the 5100s to save some money. I think the added weight of the V8 in mine would benefit from the 6112s though. The last time I lifted a vehicle was my Jeep XJ and I Went the cheap route with a cheap lift. Rode like crap and never enjoyed it. I put a spacer on my Wrangler last year and it now drives like crap due to the extra pre-load. I plan to pull the spacers out and put a better spring/shock on. You get what you pay for with lifts. With a daily driver you want to enjoy driving it on the road.


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I went with Bilstein 6112 setup. Lifted the rear 1.5" with the B12 springs, front 2.5". I could had gone another notch and gained another 1/4-1/2" in front. It drives phenomenal on the street so far. Very planted, but doesn't feel like a 1 ton truck. Actually pretty surprised how compliant it is. Coupled with the 265/70-17 K02s it drives nicely. I am debating on doing the same setup on my other 4runner or going with the 5100s to save some money. I think the added weight of the V8 in mine would benefit from the 6112s though. The last time I lifted a vehicle was my Jeep XJ and I Went the cheap route with a cheap lift. Rode like crap and never enjoyed it. I put a spacer on my Wrangler last year and it now drives like crap due to the extra pre-load. I plan to pull the spacers out and put a better spring/shock on. You get what you pay for with lifts. With a daily driver you want to enjoy driving it on the road.


Looks great and thanks for the picture and tire size info, very helpful. Just to confirm the Bilstein/6112 setup is the Bilstein 5100s w/ Toytec springs, correct? Did you need to install UCA and a diff drop?

I think right now it's between the Bilsteins and Eibach. I want to remove the XRAES system when I do the swap so no point in doing spacers.
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Looks great and thanks for the picture and tire size info, very helpful. Just to confirm the Bilstein/6112 setup is the Bilstein 5100s w/ Toytec springs, correct? Did you need to install UCA and a diff drop?

I think right now it's between the Bilsteins and Eibach. I want to remove the XRAES system when I do the swap so no point in doing spacers.
Bilstein 6112 in front
Bilstein 5160 in the rear with B12 springs

I did UCA because @ 100K I figured I should change the ball joints regardless. For a couple bucks more I got the UCA with greaseable balljoints/bushings. The old bushings on the original UCA were pretty rough looking once I got them out of the car. I think you might be able to get away with stock ones if you don't go super high. I did not do a dif drop since supposedly it's not required with a 2.5" lift.

Bilstein 6112 1.38-3" Front and 5160 0-2" Rear Lift Shocks for 2003-2009 Toyota 4Runner

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Thanks - I wasn't aware of this version of kit.
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Here's the pictures of the Eibach Pro Stage 1 Kit. I gained 2.5 inches up front and 1 inch in the rear. There is about 1 inch rake which is perfect. I also used a 10mm OME trim packer on the rear for drivers side lean. So far that side is still .5 inches higher because I've only had it on a couple of weeks. I'm thinking it will even out at some point when it fully settles.
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Here's the pictures of the Eibach Pro Stage 1 Kit. I gained 2.5 inches up front and 1 inch in the rear. There is about 1 inch rake which is perfect. I also used a 10mm OME trim packer on the rear for drivers side lean. So far that side is still .5 inches higher because I've only had it on a couple of weeks. I'm thinking it will even out at some point when it fully settles.
Thanks for the pictures! A 1" rake sounds about perfect. I think my currently stock suspension has about a 2.5" rake so there is def room for improvement. What size tires are you running?
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Thanks for the pictures! A 1" rake sounds about perfect. I think my currently stock suspension has about a 2.5" rake so there is def room for improvement. What size tires are you running?

275/70/16, 31" BFG K02, D Rating 8 Ply. With this lift you should probably be able fit a 17" wheel with a 32" tire max. This was as large as I could go without getting new wheels.
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275/70/16, 31" BFG K02, D Rating 8 Ply. With this lift you should probably be able fit a 17" wheel with a 32" tire max. This was as large as I could go without getting new wheels.
Thanks - I was looking at either 265/70/17 or 255/75/17... both right around that 32" mark. Just to confirm, you didn't need to install UCAs or a diff drop since the lift was under that 3" mark, correct?
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Thanks - I was looking at either 265/70/17 or 255/75/17... both right around that 32" mark. Just to confirm, you didn't need to install UCAs or a diff drop since the lift was under that 3" mark, correct?

That's correct, no need for UCAs or a diff drop. This lift was designed to work with all the factory components.
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Hey everyone - first post after I bought my second 4Runner last weekend. A 2008 Sport Edition V6 with only 80k on the clock.

I use to own a 3rd gen about 10 years ago so I've been slowly buy surely getting back into researching a suspension lift for it. I've got it narrowed down to the final 3 below but looking for some insight. The primary use of the truck will serve as a daily driver with some potentially light weekend off-roading ever now and than, nothing crazy. It will be mainly used as an on road, family hauler.

Below is my current list of suspension choices and I'd love to get some feedback from current T4R owners on which they would choose for my overall needs.

1. 3" Toytec/Bilstein setup - The most expensive option but it seems to be a favorite in the Toyota world.

2. Eibach Pro-Truck Kit Stage 1 - Less expensive option, reputable company, not quite as much lift.

3. 3"/2" spacer lift - The 'budget boost' would allow for the most cost effective option. I might even consider upgrading to OME 895 w/ Bilstein struts in the rear instead of spacers.

Those are the current options I am considering. I feel for the primary use of the truck option 3 makes the most sense but I wanted to see what others thought as well before I start ordering parts. Thanks in advance! Good to be back in a T4R!
Hi! Same here, it will be my DD for now, and some light off-roading some weekends, and that's about it. Let me know what you decide to do. I live in VA so it will help me a lot to see what you did and where you bought the parts and all that. Thanks!
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Hi! Same here, it will be my DD for now, and some light off-roading some weekends, and that's about it. Let me know what you decide to do. I live in VA so it will help me a lot to see what you did and where you bought the parts and all that. Thanks!
Right now I'm leaning towards the Eibach kit for a few reasons. When I'm ready to buy I plan on buying from Wheelers, they have the cheapest price for pre-assembled kits I've seen.

The only hurdle I have right now is that I need to find a shop that can not only install the lift kit but also remove the XREAS system as well. I've had trouble finding a local shop to me (I live just outside DC), any places down there by you that you could possible recommend?
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Right now I'm leaning towards the Eibach kit for a few reasons. When I'm ready to buy I plan on buying from Wheelers, they have the cheapest price for pre-assembled kits I've seen.

The only hurdle I have right now is that I need to find a shop that can not only install the lift kit but also remove the XREAS system as well. I've had trouble finding a local shop to me (I live just outside DC), any places down there by you that you could possible recommend?
I have a friend who has a shop at Fort Myer (inside the military base) in Arlington. He says he does lifts. That is where I am planning to go whenever I am ready to buy the stuff. I dont know how good he is on that, but I know he has his shop for a while. I have another mechanic that is very good, in Springfield VA. He is good but I dont know if he does lifts. I can give you both phone number if you want to call them and find out. Let me know!
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I have a friend who has a shop at Fort Myer (inside the military base) in Arlington. He says he does lifts. That is where I am planning to go whenever I am ready to buy the stuff. I dont know how good he is on that, but I know he has his shop for a while. I have another mechanic that is very good, in Springfield VA. He is good but I dont know if he does lifts. I can give you both phone number if you want to call them and find out. Let me know!
Cool, Arlington is only about 15 mins from me so that would be preferred lol.

Given the current state of everything with COVID I'm not even able to get my truck registered yet, it's just sitting in my garage so I have no immediate plans on doing anything to it just yet but I always like to plan ahead. If by chance your friend is able to remove the XREAS system I might have some business for him. I will def shoot you a PM whenever I am ready to move forward.
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