01-10-2021, 11:15 AM
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Suspension and towing
So I have read through a good portion of all of this and I haven't found an answer to my question. So I am looking at doing the fox 2.0 coilovers in front and then fox struts and springs in the back (the kit from yotamafia). I plan on putting 255 80's on 17in TRD wheels but I still would like to maintain towing capability on my v8. Is the suspension going to change my ability to do so?
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01-11-2021, 10:04 AM
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I'm a little lost on some stuff here. Would MOOG be a decent replacement for a stock SR5? I See lot of posts but things like the UCAs are crazy expensive?
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01-11-2021, 10:32 PM
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Does anyone have a pic of a 1" lift on stock tire size?
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01-12-2021, 08:40 PM
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2007 4runner Limited 4WD 4.7L V8
Bilstein 5100's F&R | ARB Springs | ICON Vector 6 | Toyo 285/75/17
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Looks pretty good!
Do you get any rubbing? Have you taken it off roading at all with the new shoes?
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01-14-2021, 02:43 AM
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Alright guys i have a question. First let me state what im working on: 2004 4Runner V8 2WD with 147,XXX on her clock. Its my daily/commuter so far but im looking to lift it 3 inches. Reason being is the tires i have on rub at full turn. The front struts are blown so it lands hard when i go over a speed bump. If im going to replace i might as well upgrade. That being said, i was wondering if any of you guys had any experience with a Dobinsons lift kit? Or would you have any suggestions on a kit. Any help is appreciated!!
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01-15-2021, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RunningSilver
Alright guys i have a question. First let me state what im working on: 2004 4Runner V8 2WD with 147,XXX on her clock. Its my daily/commuter so far but im looking to lift it 3 inches. Reason being is the tires i have on rub at full turn. The front struts are blown so it lands hard when i go over a speed bump. If im going to replace i might as well upgrade. That being said, i was wondering if any of you guys had any experience with a Dobinsons lift kit? Or would you have any suggestions on a kit. Any help is appreciated!!
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Dobinsons Suspension - 4th Gen Options
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FJ tcase swap, VVT intake swap, Solid Offroad motor mounts, Doug Thorley y-pipe, Bold Performance cat-back, ADS shocks F&R, Metal Tech LTHD springs rear, 1" body lift, 285/75/17 Toyo R/T Trails on Sequoia rims, Coastal front bumper, CAD rear bumper
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01-17-2021, 05:24 PM
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Dobinson Adj Panhard Rod vs PCK
Ive been all over, trying to get answers on why I can't have the Dobs Adj Panhard Bar over the EIMKeith PCK? I did comment on the Dobs Thread, but also wanting to ask in here, since its Suspension related.
I figured that's what the Adj Panhard Rod was for. Dobinson recommended it since im doing the LT Kit and doing 3"+ lift. I ordered the Adj Sway Bar links, the Break Line Ext, and the 3" Bumpstop Ext. figured I was all complete.
so what's the big difference over the Adj Panhard Rod and the Correction Kit from EIMKeith?? anyone know? did I make the mistake of ordering the Dobinson Panhard rod??
I appreciate all the input about this if possible.
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01-21-2021, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 4Runn1nYota
Ive been all over, trying to get answers on why I can't have the Dobs Adj Panhard Bar over the EIMKeith PCK? I did comment on the Dobs Thread, but also wanting to ask in here, since its Suspension related.
I figured that's what the Adj Panhard Rod was for. Dobinson recommended it since im doing the LT Kit and doing 3"+ lift. I ordered the Adj Sway Bar links, the Break Line Ext, and the 3" Bumpstop Ext. figured I was all complete.
so what's the big difference over the Adj Panhard Rod and the Correction Kit from EIMKeith?? anyone know? did I make the mistake of ordering the Dobinson Panhard rod??
I appreciate all the input about this if possible.
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Not sure if you got an answer in the other thread or not, but the Adj Panhard only recenters your axle under the body of the vehicle, it does not correct the panhard's angle. The panhard should be as level as possible, and when you lift the truck, you also lift up the mounting point of the panhard on one side, putting it at an angle. An angled panhard has implications for body roll, handling during cornering, etc- but I also know that a lot of folks run a lift without correcting the panhard angle, so it may not be noticeable or bothersome to you. With the PCK you do not need an aftermarket panhard because you're only moving the mounting point, but the aftermarket is probably stronger. Correcting the angle is the "correct" way to do it, but again, only you can decide whether a lifted vehicle with a not completely flat panhard bar bothers you or not. I'll be lifting my Runner soon and not doing either the PCK or the adjustable bar, and if I don't like the results, I'll weld the PCK on and use the stock bar.
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01-21-2021, 01:21 PM
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Not sure if you got an answer in the other thread or not, but the Adj Panhard only recenters your axle under the body of the vehicle, it does not correct the panhard's angle. The panhard should be as level as possible, and when you lift the truck, you also lift up the mounting point of the panhard on one side, putting it at an angle. An angled panhard has implications for body roll, handling during cornering, etc- but I also know that a lot of folks run a lift without correcting the panhard angle, so it may not be noticeable or bothersome to you. With the PCK you do not need an aftermarket panhard because you're only moving the mounting point, but the aftermarket is probably stronger. Correcting the angle is the "correct" way to do it, but again, only you can decide whether a lifted vehicle with a not completely flat panhard bar bothers you or not. I'll be lifting my Runner soon and not doing either the PCK or the adjustable bar, and if I don't like the results, I'll weld the PCK on and use the stock bar.
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Thanks mcaninch35. I appreciate the good info on this. yeah I ended up getting the heavy duty Adj Panhard Rod from Dobinson, and this was before realizing people were talking about the EimKeith PCK. so I was confused.. it is true everyone says do the PCK, but nothing else.. We ended up just doing the Panhard Rod for now. but Im going to look at the PCK later on, if I feel it is an issue.. (which pretty much means, I want it just to be safe lol) its easy to do so I can just get it done. all I need it to get it cleaned up, welded, and install the Panhard Rod into the pck. hopefully before going off road.
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01-23-2021, 08:03 PM
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Hello all, i've searched all over for pics of stock suspension but can't find what i'm looking for. Would one of you fine gents be able to identify these springs? I just bought this 04 v6 with 165k, its got 5100's but i can't identify the springs
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01-23-2021, 11:52 PM
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@ NHToyo73
, Toyota marks their springs like that to indicate the side on which they should be installed. Not sure if other manufacturers make similar marks so that may or may not be of help.
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01-24-2021, 02:38 AM
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Hey everyone! This may be buried, and I'm not 100% sure this is the best place to post, but I'm just trying to figure out what would be a good option for my 2008 4Runner Limited in terms of the new suspension. I currently have XREAS, but I'm wanting to give it a bit of a lift and level it out. I read a lot about Bilsteins and Old Man Emu. Is one better than the other? Which has the most lift while remaining under that 3" threshold (don't wanna replace other stuff right now).
Is there a best place to buy the new shocks and springs? I've also noticed there are several choices of each, and I'm not sure what would be best for me. Most city/freeway driving, but I live in Utah and love going up in the mountains or out in the desert.
Any advice would be truly appreciated. Thanks so much!
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01-24-2021, 12:42 PM
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4th Gen Suspension Options/FAQ
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Originally Posted by orbos86
Hey everyone! This may be buried, and I'm not 100% sure this is the best place to post, but I'm just trying to figure out what would be a good option for my 2008 4Runner Limited in terms of the new suspension. I currently have XREAS, but I'm wanting to give it a bit of a lift and level it out. I read a lot about Bilsteins and Old Man Emu. Is one better than the other? Which has the most lift while remaining under that 3" threshold (don't wanna replace other stuff right now).
Is there a best place to buy the new shocks and springs? I've also noticed there are several choices of each, and I'm not sure what would be best for me. Most city/freeway driving, but I live in Utah and love going up in the mountains or out in the desert.
Any advice would be truly appreciated. Thanks so much!
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General consensus seems to be Old Man Emu shocks are stiff. This may be good if you’re fully loaded with bumpers, skids, a RTT, a drawer system... their springs are highly regarded and they have a number of options depending on the weight of your vehicle.
Bilstein 5100 is tried and true and very widely used. It’s likely best to achieve the lift with a longer spring (like an OME or Eibach). This will result in better ride quality and longer shock life than preloading the original spring.
You’ve also got Eibach who are newer to the shock game. Their shocks are valved differently than Bilstein to allow for more comfort. Eibach springs are highly regarded and they make springs for many aftermarket kits (Toytec, some of wheelers springs, etc). I’ve read some think their rear springs are a bit soft and the truck can sag when loaded. YMMV.
I don’t know too much about Dobinsons other than the use twin tubeshocks vs mono tube. It’s my understanding mono tube are generally considered better but I’m not 100% sure. A lot of people really like their stuff so I’m sure someone will chime in.
I suggest doing research and really thinking about how you will actually use your truck. This forum has a ton of great info. I’ve found the YouTube videos by Shock Surplus to be really helpful too.
One last thing, I forgot to answer where to buy. It seems Wheelers Off-road has really competitive prices. Free shipping and no sales tax in the US. They also give 10% off your first purchase when you make an account. There’s usually a pop up when you visit the site. They email a code that’s good for 48 hours ONLY so don’t signup until you’re ready to buy. They are another good resource to call and bounce some questions off of.
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01-24-2021, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by punkcroc
So I have read through a good portion of all of this and I haven't found an answer to my question. So I am looking at doing the fox 2.0 coilovers in front and then fox struts and springs in the back (the kit from yotamafia). I plan on putting 255 80's on 17in TRD wheels but I still would like to maintain towing capability on my v8. Is the suspension going to change my ability to do so?
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You should consider 6112 as an alternative to Fox 2.0. The rear springs will have the biggest impact on if you’re sagging when towing. You don’t want something too tall or stiff because it will be rough when you’re not loaded. If you tow a lot of may be worth or. Or look at airbags for when you tow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-cVXSJT5I&feature=youtu.be
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01-24-2021, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tironeous
General consensus seems to be Old Man Emu shocks are stiff. This may be good if you’re fully loaded with bumpers, skids, a RTT, a drawer system... their springs are highly regarded and they have a number of options depending on the weight of your vehicle.
Bilstein 5100 is tried and true and very widely used. It’s likely best to achieve the lift with a longer spring (like an OME or Eibach). This will result in better ride quality and longer shock life than preloading the original spring.
You’ve also got Eibach who are newer to the shock game. Their shocks are valved differently than Bilstein to allow for more comfort. Eibach springs are highly regarded and they make springs for many aftermarket kits (Toytec, some of wheelers springs, etc). I’ve read some think their rear springs are a bit soft and the truck can sag when loaded. YMMV.
I don’t know too much about Dobinsons other than the use twin tubeshocks vs mono tube. It’s my understanding mono tube are generally considered better but I’m not 100% sure. A lot of people really like their stuff so I’m sure someone will chime in.
I suggest doing research and really thinking about how you will actually use your truck. This forum has a ton of great info. I’ve found the YouTube videos by Shock Surplus to be really helpful too.
One last thing, I forgot to answer where to buy. It seems Wheelers Off-road has really competitive prices. Free shipping and no sales tax in the US. They also give 10% off your first purchase when you make an account. There’s usually a pop up when you visit the site. They email a code that’s good for 48 hours ONLY so don’t signup until you’re ready to buy. They are another good resource to call and bounce some questions off of.
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