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Old 10-15-2021, 12:40 PM #4051
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Damn you got me thinking now. Yeah I lifted vehicle with OME springs. I was hoping to achieve this same height if not higher. The rear should be the same if I keep the rear OME 895.
Hi and nice sliders as well. What brand are they and are they welded or bolt on?

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Hi and nice sliders as well. What brand are they and are they welded or bolt on?

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They are actually done by the homie from Vista. Welded on. I just got my spare swingout done by him recently, hoping to go back to finish up the rear with a bash bar for the rear bumper. @nickd eyatnight on IG.
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@mkrunnersd You still have those springs? I'm in SD and have some 6112 I bought used that am thinking of giving a shot. I have a lot of extra weight, so those might be helpful.

I also got my sliders from Nick!
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Old 10-18-2021, 12:49 PM #4054
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@mkrunnersd You still have those springs? I'm in SD and have some 6112 I bought used that am thinking of giving a shot. I have a lot of extra weight, so those might be helpful.

I also got my sliders from Nick!
Hi and I do have the springs if you are interested but they are the lower rated springs at 600lbs for the V6. I updated to the 650lbs. If you give me the part # painted on the spring I can confirm if mine are the same.

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[QUOTE=Byways;3631178]Here is my experience with the Old Man Emu front struts advertised as "Stock/Light Duty Kit 1.5"- 2" Lift," and replaced with Bilstein 5100s at the 0.85 height setting (second slot from bottom for the C-clip).

My 2005 4Runner was completely stock, and too low. I did not, and do not care about appearance, e.g., "leveling" or "rake." I am not into cosmetic buildups. I am not a poser. Rather, being in the wildland-travel business, function and reliability are what I care about, as my three 4Runners have work to do.

Stock, it had about 8 inches from the front crossmember to ground. That is inadequate for a vehicle that is actually used to travel wildland roads, IMO. It is the location that often impacts roadbed rocks and ledges. So that measurement -- not wheel hub to lower fender lip -- is the distance that matters.

After installation, I found that the OME kit's advertised specs (1.5-2 inches of lift) substantially understated the actual lift all-round. The OME kit (884 springs and OME shocks, with a trim spacer on the driver front to address the known Toyota driver-side lean) put the actual front clearance at ~14.5 inches from the front crossmember to ground.

I liked the OME kit's handling and ride. The off-road performance was greatly enhanced. I even liked the bold look.

However, the truck immediately began emitting a low, harmonic, rotational groan when cold. The sound disappeared when I switched into 4WD, and after the drivetrain had warmed up. I don't know why.

Also, the OME kit's excessive lift put the CV axles at a substantial angle, upward from the wheel inward. So the boots tore VERY prematurely. As I drive a great deal on unpaved roads, and ford streams from time to time, the axles had to be replaced many thousands of miles before they should have been. (Please don't suggest that I could have just replaced the boots or installed boots for steep axle angles, changed the upper control arms, or added a differential case drop kit ... I had no interest in seeing matters metastasize.)

Also, I've been told that the excessive lift damaged the upper ball joints on both sides, causing an annoying suspension squeak ... meaning they now have to be replaced ($400+).

The lift also caused a loss of about 3-4 mpg in fuel consumption (down to 16-ish), which I anticipated.

Clearly, the OME kit's excessive and inaccurately described lift -- well beyond what ARB and the retailer still advertise for a stock/light-duty 4th gen 4Runner -- was causing problems that probably would only get worse [quote]


I have contacted ARBUSA in regard to the OME 884 springs and this was their reply. Although I used Bilstein 5100's Byways did use the OME shocks (struts).

"We do not recommend pairing our springs with any other strut, only OME struts. Our advertised lift of 1-2" is only guaranteed with OME struts.

Also, it is also possible that the vehicle looks taller because the old stock springs sagged. Our advertised lift is based on a brand new vehicle."

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will 2021 4runner off-road shocks struts and UCAs fit on my 2003 v8?
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:19 PM #4057
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Angry Error codes from Bilsteins?

Reading all herein, and calling Bilstein/Kalifornia to ask if their 4600 and 5100 shock will work on my 04 4r XREAS, they say they will not warranty their shock on my truck, AND that I will get dash error codes after install if the XREAS hydraulic lines are not connected to anything.



Why then do or HOW are people within this forum installing these aftermarket shocks (Bilsteins, OMEs, etc.) on XREAS 4rs and not having these problems?
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Reading all herein, and calling Bilstein/Kalifornia to ask if their 4600 and 5100 shock will work on my 04 4r XREAS, they say they will not warranty their shock on my truck, AND that I will get dash error codes after install if the XREAS hydraulic lines are not connected to anything.



Why then do or HOW are people within this forum installing these aftermarket shocks (Bilsteins, OMEs, etc.) on XREAS 4rs and not having these problems?
Ah that's all BS, error codes-NO. I just put in 5100's all around in my 2003 LTD(V8) with rears air suspension and removed the XREAS and it's fine. There is nothing electrically connected to the XREAS system, unless they made a big change between 03 and 04. Although I still think I liked the XREAS better for cornering and ride. I bought my 5100's from Bilstein Canada and they never said anything.
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Its that time, my 03 is due for suspension change out due to failing struts. So, I will be changing both front and rear struts. I am running the daystar 2.5 kit. What do you guys recommend going? Looking for cheap but quality parts, the lowest I will be looking at is the duralast quick strut kit. But any and all recommendations are appreciated.
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RE: Blistien 6100 front shock and clip position for a V6
I’m a bit confused, a well known trait for me. I’ve tried. Searching and reading this topic but don’t seem to find any specific answer....

Referring to The install documentation it says for the V6 to offset the clips to take into consideration the ‘factory sag’ yet when reading all these posts I’m not seeing any on the forum indicate that is how they did it. Only the specific clip position and the compensation plate.
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RE: Blistien 6100 front shock and clip position for a V6
I’m a bit confused, a well known trait for me. I’ve tried. Searching and reading this topic but don’t seem to find any specific answer....

Referring to The install documentation it says for the V6 to offset the clips to take into consideration the ‘factory sag’ yet when reading all these posts I’m not seeing any on the forum indicate that is how they did it. Only the specific clip position and the compensation plate.
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You might be better off with a tiny spacer on the front and back to compensate for the toyo lean.
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also if I wanted to go different springs for my 6112/5160 setup, could you guys direct me to the springs that are compatible with the shocks?
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You might be better off with a tiny spacer on the front and back to compensate for the toyo lean.
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Hey all - I'm planning on installing 5100s (all around), OMEs (all around), and SPC UCAs. Also planning on installing new tires (BFG K02 285/70/17) + wheels (TRD Pros) shortly after. What's the best order of operations for alignment?

Suspension -> Tires/Wheels -> Alignment

or Suspension -> Alignment -> Tires/Wheels?

I figure the former is better but asking as my alignment shop is booked out for a couple of weeks. Trying to gauge how long out I can get away before getting the alignment done.
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also if I wanted to go different springs for my 6112/5160 setup, could you guys direct me to the springs that are compatible with the shocks?

Your have several options for 1" and 1.5" rear coils.

Eibach 1" - Part #E30-82-073-01-02
Eibach 1.5" - Part #E30-82-073-02-02

Bilstein 1.5" - Part #36-281817

Dobinsons 1.5" - Part #C59-325

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