Thanks for the advice t-man. But, I prefer to purchase tires from places that do things properly. I don't really like the tire monitoring system but I have it and will maintain it as needed. I have no desire to start cutting up my wiring and lowering the value of my vehicle to get rid of a warning light.

Then why are you on this thread? The whole purpose is to get rid of that light for whatever reason. I personally have very large tires that I air down frequently and don't need an idiot light to tell me my tire is low. I also run tire beads and don't have to worry about wheel weights. So technically I can take my tires off the rim and put new ones on myself and never worry about a thing. I don't care about the "street cred" of a shop. Discount tire and other big names have some really stupid people working there that you are relying on to do the job correctly. Personally I have found the small mom and pop shops to be much more reliable which is what I use when needed. They also do offroad stuff and don't care that I don't want the idiot proof sensors, or the catalytic converters, or that my truck is lifted and one day will get a SAS with dana 60's. Does that make them bad? No, I'm just not feeding the Chinese, well maybe with the tires...

Can you support that? What is the federal statute number? Has the federal government filed such a suit?

Take it easy guys. You all can alter your cars anyway you want. I just thought some people on this forum might like to know what the requirements are for TPMS.

Here are some links to what I found on the law. Not sure if any lawsuits were filed but I will search and post if I find anything.

Here is the actual law.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/ruli...nalrule.6.html

And some discussion of the law:
http://www.tirebusiness.com/article/...NEWS/311239995

This next link says you can essentially change your tires and rims and delete the the sensors but you can not disable the warning light on the dash. Go figure.

http://www.tirereview.com/the-final-...ing-conundrum/

Fines are only against the installer, not the owner. I doubt any suits have been filed by the government. Would not worry about that.


Have fun!

Big brother is always on duty, your tax money at work.

I was getting ready to do this mod and my flashing low air light went off. Go figure.

As I read all of this, the CFR clearly indicates that an aftermarket installer cannot "make inoperative" the TPMS, but it in no way prohibits (or holds liable) an installer for installing tires on a disabled system.

Right!

NHTSA: “That is correct. After first retail sale of the vehicle, we do not believe that installing aftermarket tires and wheels necessarily makes the TPMS ‘inoperable.’ However, the MIL cannot be disabled. If the vehicle owner so desires, the vehicle could be taken to a dealer that has the replacement parts and tools necessary to repair and calibrate the TPMS system.”

Honestly, who gives a shit? It's my truck, if they don't like it, to bad, I'll go somewhere else. Since taking the tpms out and disabling the light nobody has said a word. Out of sight out of mind. The worst thing that can happen is they can refuse to change your tires. Their loss, there's over a dozen tire places in my town, all fighting for attention. One of them will do it.

I agree completely. I don't like the government trying to tell me that I'm too stupid to use a tire pressure gauge. My point is that, as far as I can tell from reading the CFR, a tire/wheel installer that tries to tell anyone that they can't install a new set of tires because I've disabled my TPMS indicator is blowing smoke ... there is nothing the in the CFR that indicates they would be held liable for installing tires on a vehicle with a disabled TPMS indicator. They just can't disable it themselves. For that they would be held liable.

I would remove the Bulb in the cluster because when you short wiring together you don't know what can happen! I'm sure it's low current...but shorting it will cause the circuit to always be on and everyone knows searching for wiring problems in any vehicle is Not Fun!

I also read up on the TPMS and it says the light on the instrument panel will come on when the tire pressure is 25% lower than the programmed or recommended tire pressure. So, if you are supposed to be at 36 psi for example...36x 0.25 (25%)= 9psi...36psi-9psi = 27psi light s/b ON. It only comes on when tire pressure is low (not high). I've never had my tire pressure go this low and the light would still come when tire pressure was only a couple of pounds too low. And there is a TPMS in your Spare Tire! So that pressure has to be correct as well or the light will come on. A tire retailer s/b able to program your 4runner with the tire pressure of the tires you are using on your vehicle.

Big thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. I did the unplug and tiny wire trick, works mint!

This site kicks ass.

I'm at 11 years now and all 5 of mine are still working properly. On borrowed time no doubt.

It states clearly that the operator of a tire store can delete the TPMS if it was faulty when it entered the sop. He can,.. and it specifically states that he ca, remove all the TPMS sensors and replace with standard rubber valves if the sensors were faulty upon entering his shop. He just has to annotate it. Rip out all you want,. legally he cannot deny you service for this. Me?.. I went and spent about $150 and bought two tools,.. one reads/activates the TPMS sensors and tests them. The other plugs into your OBDII port and programs in howver many sensors you want and the pressure values. If it had not crapped snow on us,.. This is the tool I would have used this weekend to delete my spare from the On board computer as i removed my stock spare and put in my 285/17 BFG.. but had to air it down to make it fit (I always have a compressor to air it up).