09-09-2018, 10:54 AM
|
#16
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 4,665
Real Name: Skip
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 4,665
Real Name: Skip
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bucklax19
Hi all! This is my first post on this site (although I've been a reader for years). Apologize if this isn't the best place to insert my issue, but yesterday my 2004 4runner (230+ K miles) suddenly wouldn't start. I've had battery issues before, but I had driven the car for about 3 hours already that day (1.5 hours to and from a location, no issues on the road) and was taking a 15 minute break before heading back out when the issue started. When I put the key to ACC, a few of the normal lights came on very dimly and there was a vibrating noise coming from the fuse box in the engine compartment. The starter wouldn't even try to engage when I turned the key over.
Not sure if this is because of a dead battery, but it wouldn't jump when I tried. Battery connections seem fine, no corrosion (like I said, the car has worked fine for a long time up to this point, the issue happened very suddenly).
Thanks!
|
V6 or V8, I ask because of the starter location, V8 is very hard, actually impossible to check the starter and wiring connections without removing many other parts, V6 much easier because of starter mounting location?
Also make sure you check the battery cable where it is attached to the frame, i.e, the "ground", if your ground is slightly loose or has corrosion it can act like a dead battery and also not jump start, even if it seems tight I would recommend loosening it and clean the connection point to shiny clean metal and reattach it.
__________________
2004 Limited V8
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
10-01-2018, 05:31 PM
|
#17
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Washington
Posts: 264
|
|
Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Washington
Posts: 264
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennerboy
Sorry for commenting on an old post but I would like to know how to reset this zpc you speak of. I disconnected my battery and now fuel gauge says full. I tried the trip cycling procedure and the second beep is continuous and not resetting. Thanks in advance by the way I have a 2004 runner
|
In case anyone else comes across this thread, the zero point calibration procedure is here:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/proble...libration.html
There's a PDF in one of the comments that has info for how to do it with a special tool, but really you can do it with two thick paper clips or 16 gauge wires.
Last edited by djpope09; 11-15-2018 at 07:16 PM.
Reason: Added an alternate tool to use for ZPC
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
10-01-2018, 05:35 PM
|
#18
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Washington
Posts: 264
|
|
Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Washington
Posts: 264
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JShipps
I'm interested in this too. My new to me 07 needs a battery. How do I know? Cuz this forum taught me that if I start my car and the rear wiper makes one swipe that obviously means my battery is low - bizarre, but true.
My question is, is it easy enough to change my battery myself or should I take it to the dealer or O'Reilly's or somewhere like that? Costco sells Interstate batteries fairly cheap, but they don't install them. The owners manual doesn't give any instruction on changing the battery by yourself either.
|
Again, in case someone comes across this thread and wants to know the answer.
For my 04, the battery is at the front, driver's side of the engine bay. Loosen the nuts holding on the negative and then positive battery cables and then remove the cables. The battery is held in place by a cross bar and two vertical bars with nuts at the top of the battery. Undo those nuts and rotate the vertical bars so that the "hook" at the bottom comes out and you can take the "holder" off as one piece. It's really easy and shouldn't take long at all.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
10-10-2018, 12:36 PM
|
#19
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Woodinville, WA
Posts: 57
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Woodinville, WA
Posts: 57
|
Bought my Interstate battery at Costco and changed it out myself. Super easy. Can't believe I was even a little concerned about it.
__________________
4Runner Noob
2007 SR5 V6
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-04-2019, 10:04 PM
|
#20
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 61
|
|
Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 61
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JShipps
I'm interested in this too. My new to me 07 needs a battery. How do I know? Cuz this forum taught me that if I start my car and the rear wiper makes one swipe that obviously means my battery is low - bizarre, but true.
My question is, is it easy enough to change my battery myself or should I take it to the dealer or O'Reilly's or somewhere like that? Costco sells Interstate batteries fairly cheap, but they don't install them. The owners manual doesn't give any instruction on changing the battery by yourself either.
|
Definitely a do it yourself job. Even with the issues you’re reading about here. I have a thread on this topic here: Need a new battery... but which one?
I went with a 5yr Walmart battery. Like someone pointed out, there is a Walmart everywhere.
I had issues with my electric windows, but that was an easy fix, here: https://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-g...ml#post3378398
But now I’m doing more research and on a new issue I found related to the headlights. I used to leave my headlights on. And when I turned my car off they would stay on for a few minutes then turn off automatically. The problem now is they don’t turn off by themselves. But I haven’t seen this issue mentioned. Anyone else run across this problem after a battery change?
Ok, ignore the last part about the headlights. My kid didn’t close the door all the way. Grrr!
__________________
06 SR5, 190k miles (just breaking it in)
Last edited by CelticRunner; 11-05-2019 at 06:28 PM.
Reason: Stupidity- but I’m still blaming the kid!
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
03-10-2020, 01:05 PM
|
#21
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Redding, CA
Posts: 6
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Redding, CA
Posts: 6
|
YouTube
Found this video from Scotty Kilmer. You have to preserve something called the KEEP ALIVE MEMORY while swapping batteries. Good video. I’m about to try this myself on my ‘04 Ltd.
Things used in this video:
1. Power Supply Cable Memory Saver: http://amzn.to/2nxoD9e
2. 12V battery supply (Jump Start Pack): http://amzn.to/2GFDyH6
3. Disposable Gloves: http://amzn.to/2z4TygG
4. Common Sense
Last edited by the.view.from.here; 03-10-2020 at 01:10 PM.
Reason: Adding links to tools used
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
03-10-2020, 07:04 PM
|
#22
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 4
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 4
|
Just wanting to bump this thread because I’m having an issue after recharging the battery.
While cleaning my 04 Limited yesterday I accidentally left the key on ACC and drained the battery. After charging the battery and cranking it up I noticed the 4lo light was blinking on the dash. VSC lights were also on.
I turned the vehicle off after several minutes and removed the key. When I turned the car back on the 4lo light still blinks but now it is also beeping.
When I actually put it in 4lo (when in neutral) the beeping stops and the light goes solid. When I put it back into 4hi the beeping and flashing starts again.
I have tried cycling through 4hi and 4lo several times and even drove around the block.
I reset the ECU by disconnecting the battery and checked the 4wd fuse in the dash.
I unplugged the 4wd ecu under the glove box also.
This just happened after jumping off the battery so it appears to only be an electrical issue.
I got the C1336 (Zero Point Calibration) code when I hooked it up to a code reader. Just finished doing the ZPC, fixed the VSC lights but now the code reader isn't showing anything else wrong even though the 4lo light still flashes and beeps when it's in AWD.
Any advice??
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
03-11-2020, 09:58 AM
|
#23
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Redding, CA
Posts: 6
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Redding, CA
Posts: 6
|
So following up on the original video I posted. I called the Toyota dealer and the service guy told me to just swap batteries while the vehicle's running. Saved me from having to buy or find the tools below. Ridiculously easy, total no-brainer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by the.view.from.here
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
03-11-2020, 06:28 PM
|
#24
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 4,665
Real Name: Skip
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 4,665
Real Name: Skip
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by the.view.from.here
So following up on the original video I posted. I called the Toyota dealer and the service guy told me to just swap batteries while the vehicle's running. Saved me from having to buy or find the tools below. Ridiculously easy, total no-brainer.
|
Do some research...but it's not advisable to disconnect the battery in a modern vehicle loaded with computers and electronics, it "can" cause major issues with those computers and electronics!!
I'm shock a service "guy" if he had any amount of experience would tell you it's OK to do that!
I have been doing mechanic work for over 50 years and back before the computers and electronics controlling everything it was perfectly fine to disconnect the battery to test that the generator/alternator was charging it was a common and accepted diagnosis, but once the computers and electronics came into play most if not all vehicle manufacturers warned not to do that because of the damage it can do to the computer and electronics and most of them say it would void the warranty on those items!!
__________________
2004 Limited V8
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
03-14-2020, 07:09 PM
|
#25
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Redding, CA
Posts: 6
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Redding, CA
Posts: 6
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by AuSeeker
Do some research...but it's not advisable to disconnect the battery in a modern vehicle loaded with computers and electronics, it "can" cause major issues with those computers and electronics!!
I'm shock a service "guy" if he had any amount of experience would tell you it's OK to do that!
I have been doing mechanic work for over 50 years and back before the computers and electronics controlling everything it was perfectly fine to disconnect the battery to test that the generator/alternator was charging it was a common and accepted diagnosis, but once the computers and electronics came into play most if not all vehicle manufacturers warned not to do that because of the damage it can do to the computer and electronics and most of them say it would void the warranty on those items!!
|
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't have any problems after the swap, but I understand what you're saying and I guess I won't be doing it that way again then.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
04-30-2020, 12:08 PM
|
#26
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Lombard
Posts: 4
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Lombard
Posts: 4
|
Weird intermittent battery light issue
Hey everyone hope someone can help point me in the right direction here
So I’ve replaced my battery with an odessey battery
As of 4 months ago and also installed a new connector for the alternator because one of the wires coming out of it where grounded since then everything’s been fine until recently the battery light came on and I checked the terminals and the negative was very loose so I tightened it and next drive the light went away until 20 mins In it came back then it went away after some time
I checked charge on battery and it’s 14.0 when car is on
Also when my battery light comes on I turned all my lights and radio on and noticed no dip in voltage (light flickering slow window, none of that everything works fine)
So I’m trying to trouble shoot but most times I pull it into my driveway when I shift it to park the battery light goes away again with no cause or weird noise or smell and nothings loose
Has someone expirenced this, or could it be my connections for the whip going to the alternator?
I have a 2000 SR5 4Runner
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
05-06-2020, 08:23 PM
|
#27
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackWorksInc
First I would check your connections on the battery to make sure their nice and tight, the radio freaking out sounds more like a bad ground than anything (this is a factory radio head unit right?)
The fuel mileage indicator will fluctuate for a while as you've erased the learned values on the "optimism meter" (as many of us refer to it as it is typically inaccurate), so I wouldn't worry to much about that, it will level out to what ever it thinks the average fuel economy the more you drive it.
You also need to reinitialize the automatic function of the driver's window and rear window after you disconnect the battery. To do this simply roll the window up and down 3 times in a row without stopping (going all the way down and up), this relearns the jam protection feature and lets the "Auto" function on both the Driver's Front Window and Rear Hatch Window to function correctly.
You may also have the VSC & ABS warning lights come on, this is because on the '03 & '04 models the Zero Point Calibration (ZPC) data becomes erased when the voltage drops too low (usually below 12.0volts or when you disconnect the battery); you will need to perform a ZPC relearn to correct the issue (there's some write-ups on the forum for it.)
Did you by any chance relearn the idle after you disconnected the battery? Usually Toyota vehicles run a bit rougher and shift a little worse after having the battery disconnected for a bit; the reason is that the learned memory in the ECM is erased and the vehicle needs to relearn your driving habits. After you disconnect the battery for about 5-10 minutes you want to let the vehicle idle with no loads (no radio, no A/C, no lights, ect.) for a good 5-10 minutes to let it get its bearings; after which driving it like you normally do for a while will let it relearn your driving habits.
|
Nice
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
05-06-2020, 08:24 PM
|
#28
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fourwd1
Or you could use one of those little back-up battery packs that plugs into your cig lighter while the battery is disconnected to prevent all that.
|
Nice
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
05-06-2020, 08:24 PM
|
#29
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5
|
Nice
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
05-06-2020, 08:25 PM
|
#30
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by djpope09
Again, in case someone comes across this thread and wants to know the answer.
For my 04, the battery is at the front, driver's side of the engine bay. Loosen the nuts holding on the negative and then positive battery cables and then remove the cables. The battery is held in place by a cross bar and two vertical bars with nuts at the top of the battery. Undo those nuts and rotate the vertical bars so that the "hook" at the bottom comes out and you can take the "holder" off as one piece. It's really easy and shouldn't take long at all.
|
Nice
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|