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Old 01-22-2019, 12:35 PM #871
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For those that care, Rockauto is now showing a NEW front caliper by Raybestos but only for 13WG castings. $90 each with no core, certainly seems better than a reman unit that lasts a couple of years at best. I'm getting some front drag (based on temp measurements, no vibration) so ordered them to see if they hold up better than the Centrics on it now.
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Wow! Those are sweet! Too bad they don't make something for the rears too!

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I understand that 5th gen 14WB calipers ( front ones) has 14mm mount bolt hole, compare to 14WA caliper with 12mm hole and that it is not a direct swap.
But anyway, I have bought 2018 5th gen 4Runner with 9.000 miles on it 14WB calipers on eBay for $207 each and installed them on my 2007 4Runner.
Calipers came with all hardware and pads and looked like new.
I drilled holes in steering knuckles with 12.2 mm drill bit and then cut new threads using 14mm x 1.5 taps. Now I can use any kind of calipers because I can simply drill bigger holes on either 13WG/H or 14WA.
I installed OEM rotors that I've bought on eBay for $153 set. (I've done buying all that Centric and other aftermarket crap).
All in all, together with rear 5th gen brakes ( used with 30.000 mile on them $70.99 each) and 04466-AZ103 pads I am pretty happy and relaxing now. I did not even expect that result would be so good.
And I also had to buy special mounting bolts. I bought them in Crown Toyota dealership. Part number is 90105-A0336. Metric 14X1.5 with 19 mm head and 35mm body ( thread) length. About $10 for set of 4.
Thank you very much guys ( and especially 084RUNNAH ) for wonderful amount of information that allowed me to do that upgrade!
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Here to report my 5th gen Centric calipers from Rockauto are seized up after ~2 years.

For anyone doing this, I highly suggest going with a local store (Advance/Auto Zone/Napa) and buying replacements with a lifetime warranty...even if you go back to the 4th gen calipers.

I just picked up 2 front 5th gen calipers from Auto Zone for ~$150 after cores.
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Thanks for posting. I kind of suspected this. Sad really. I did local stores with lifetime for that reason. Good to know.
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Here to report my 5th gen Centric calipers from Rockauto are seized up after ~2 years.

For anyone doing this, I highly suggest going with a local store (Advance/Auto Zone/Napa) and buying replacements with a lifetime warranty...even if you go back to the 4th gen calipers.

I just picked up 2 front 5th gen calipers from Auto Zone for ~$150 after cores.
My thoughts exactly. I had my LF 5th gen seize up after two yrs, with less than 20k miles on it...surely my RF is on the way out. That's what you get for remans though.
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My rockauto 5th gen calipers also had issues.
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I live in Eastern Washington State. Chemicals used on the roads in the winter months are really hard on the underside of the rig(2009 SR5). I try to keep the underside as clean as I can by using a carwash but lots of rust anyways. I ride motorcycles as long as the weather will allow so my 4Runner only has about 65,000 miles on it. I've gone through three sets of calipers.

From what I've read here, the 5th gen parts are a little better but still the problems remain. Maybe next time around I will spend the big bucks and go with an aftermarket upgrade(SOS, or RR Racing). Buying new calipers and other parts every 20,000 miles is getting old. Seems like there has got to be something out there that will last longer.

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Nice job! I will try my later.
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4TH GEN FRONT ROTOR (For 14BD caliper (SR5, Sport and Limited Trims))
Toyota Part #: 42431-60201
Outer Diameter: 312mm
Thickness: 18mm
Hub hole: 106.1mm
Bolt hole: 14.5mm
Weight: 13.64 lbs

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Does having the 14BD in the rear of my 4th gen mean I have 319mm calipers in the back?

Ive looked underneath my Limited and know I have the 14BD rear calipers, but havent looked at the front. From what I could gather from other research, the front will either be 13(WH/WL/WG) with the 13WH being the larger 339mm and the other two being 319mm. I am confused by the For 14BD because I am assuming that it means 4th gens with rear 14BD calipers will have front that also have 319mm. Though, once I am off work, I can just look at them myself and clear up all the confusion I am bringing on myself

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I live in Eastern Washington State. Chemicals used on the roads in the winter months are really hard on the underside of the rig(2009 SR5). I try to keep the underside as clean as I can by using a carwash but lots of rust anyways. I ride motorcycles as long as the weather will allow so my 4Runner only has about 65,000 miles on it. I've gone through three sets of calipers.

From what I've read here, the 5th gen parts are a little better but still the problems remain. Maybe next time around I will spend the big bucks and go with an aftermarket upgrade(SOS, or RR Racing). Buying new calipers and other parts every 20,000 miles is getting old. Seems like there has got to be something out there that will last longer.

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Yeah, I would recommend NOT doing the upgrade. Despite you getting "bigger" piston/rotors/whatever, you will NOT feel a difference in performance. I have YET to see any objective test between 4th/5th brakes performance. If I were you, just get OEM (if you can get it cheap), or head to rockauto and get the "specially coated" calipers/rotors.

I have heard of others installing other high performance brakes, but that is pricey.

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Just ordered 5th gen OEM from mcgeorge? Toyota. Under $320 shipped for fronts. Using 5th gen OEM pads most likely unless someone knows a better option at the same price range. Also ordered front and rear stoptech SS line kits. Does anyone know of a kit for the rear inner lines??, I keep seeing them listed individually only
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Just ordered 5th gen OEM from mcgeorge? Toyota. Under $320 shipped for fronts. Using 5th gen OEM pads most likely unless someone knows a better option at the same price range. Also ordered front and rear stoptech SS line kits. Does anyone know of a kit for the rear inner lines??, I keep seeing them listed individually only
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Yeah, I saw those, but reviews are split. Will have stoptech kits delivered Friday. Might see if I can have some made locally.
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Yeah, I saw those, but reviews are split. Will have stoptech kits delivered Friday. Might see if I can have some made locally.
I installed them recently (December) and had no issues. Only real hiccup was the rear banjo bolts don't fit in the caliper slot. They need to be rotated out a bit to clear but they do work.

I believe I read crown will make some if you contact them and tell them what you need. I may be mistaken but I seem to remember people in your situation doing that.

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