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My trusted local mechanic went through everything in the front end and said everything is tight. They said the lower control arms are in good condition and won't replace anything because they said I will be unhappy paying for something that results in no change. They think it's my tires, BFG A/T KO's. No way I'm switching to a street tire. I really think the 4Runner needs a steering stabilizer.
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05-31-2018, 07:39 PM
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did you ever find out the issue?
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05-31-2018, 08:21 PM
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Nope. Any suggestions?
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05-31-2018, 09:45 PM
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Nope. Any suggestions?
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Did they check that the tires were balanced correctly, by that I mean using the proper balancing procedure, these 4th gens tires/wheel are lug-centric, when tires are balanced they either use lug-centric or hub-centric procedure, if they used hub-centric when balancing your tires that could be your issue.
The difference is that for hub-centric the wheel is centered on the spindle by the actual hub, whereas for lug-centric the wheel is centered by the actual lugnuts, if the wrong balancing procedure is used the wheel/tires could still be out of balance when it is installed on the vehicle.
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Did they check that the tires were balanced correctly, by that I mean using the proper balancing procedure, these 4th gens tires/wheel are lug-centric, when tires are balanced they either use lug-centric or hub-centric procedure, if they used hub-centric when balancing your tires that could be your issue.
The difference is that for hub-centric the wheel is centered on the spindle by the actual hub, whereas for lug-centric the wheel is centered by the actual lugnuts, if the wrong balancing procedure is used the wheel/tires could still be out of balance when it is installed on the vehicle.
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I don’t think it has anything to do with the wheels or tires. The wheels have been refinished, and tires replaced. Smooth driving on the road. I can occasionally feel slight steering wheel “clacking” over bumps in the road. Feels like the steering column is loose. I need to strap a GoPro to my chest and drive down a washboard gravel road to show people what I’m talking about. This is a third vehicle now, used for pulling the boat, carrying bikes, and hauling cargo like kegs and stuff from Lowe’s or Home Depot. Current off road vehicle is a lifted Jeep Rubicon. Daily driver Honda Accord.
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06-01-2018, 03:53 PM
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I can occasionally feel slight steering wheel “clacking” over bumps in the road. Feels like the steering column is loose. I need to strap a GoPro to my chest and drive down a washboard gravel road to show people what I’m talking about. This is a third vehicle now, used for pulling the boat, carrying bikes, and hauling cargo like kegs and stuff from Lowe’s or Home Depot. Current off road vehicle is a lifted Jeep Rubicon. Daily driver Honda Accord.
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The easiest way to diagnose if its tire/wheel related is to rotate your rear tires to the front and see if you get the same issues.
As for road vibrations, what kinds of tires are you running, what PSI, and what is your suspension setup. Also, how old is your suspension? With certain tires especially in E load and aggressive tread patterns, you can feel more vibrations through the wheel but your shocks should be insulating you from most of that. Consider your shocks age and inspect them to see if they are leaking.
The steering column "clack" could be a few things.
I've felt this for a while. Some people solved it by tightening the first bolt where the steering shaft comes through the firewall down by the pedals (first thread). Other people had success with sliding the steering shaft coupler up slightly (second thread). The other fix that people seemed to have a permanent fix was from spot welding the slip connection in the column itself (third thread) to remove the play between those two pieces.
Steering Column 'Clack' resolved
steering wheel knock
Diagnose and Fix Steering Play/Rattle - TTORA Forum
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06-02-2018, 12:18 AM
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Nope. Any suggestions?
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Bad CV joint?
Edit: just read your last response,forget the CV idea. Possible steering rack?
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06-02-2018, 09:51 AM
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Bad CV joint?
Edit: just read your last response,forget the CV idea. Possible steering rack?
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Our 4R has had this issue for a few years now, long enough that I’ve gone from Nitto TG’s, BFG A/T’s, and currently BFG M/T take-offs from our Rubicon. The issue is not tire related. I’ve read every thread I could find on this forum and others. My best guess is the steering rack, just haven’t gone through the hassle and expense to have it replaced, since that might or might not fix it. Steering is tight on the road. Bilstein struts on the front are fine, recently replaced the rear shocks when the Rough Country 3 inch lift was added when we put the M/T’s on. The lift made no difference to the clacking issue. It’s not bothering me so much since most/all of my driving with the 4R is on road now. However, my sons both want this 4R when I let it go so I would like to fix it. Biggest problem with local mechanics and explaining the issue is there aren’t any gravel roads near here to show them.
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