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They're great in snow but crap off-road. I've had two sidewalls split and will never buy these expensive pieces of crap again. Just wanted to let those of you who get off the pavement that these are not the tires you want.
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I've had a sidewall puncture (more like a tear actually) when wheeling in some pretty sharp rock. No other significant damage yet though.
Would I buy them again? At this point, the jury is out. BFG MT's I had prior just seemed to be way more robust from a purely subjective standpoint.
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06-08-2016, 08:48 PM
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I've had a sidewall puncture (more like a tear actually) when wheeling in some pretty sharp rock. No other significant damage yet though.
Would I buy them again? At this point, the jury is out. BFG MT's I had prior just seemed to be way more robust from a purely subjective standpoint.
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Az Off Road is The 1 Reason I will Not Consider these Tires. I Like to Go Off Road and Come Back...Without Flats.
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06-08-2016, 09:07 PM
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I own these tires... 285 70 17. They are flat out garbage. Not only are they the most expensive tires that I have ever owned, but not one of them is round. They are all egg shaped from the factory, and that is after 3 different sets under warranty. Sure, they are great off road and in the snow (unless you happen to have any rocks near your tires, the sidewalls are less than 10mm thick)
I really, really wanted to like these tires. 1 of them had a sidewall problem and was replaced with a used cooper tire. Strangely, the only tire that seems to be balanced on my truck is the used cooper AT tire, the remaining 3 dura tracs still wobble like crazy at 70 mph.
1 good thing about them is that they haven't worn down even 1/16th after 10,000 miles. So I might just throw them on craigslist as having 90% tread (which is true) and get something else. Anybody want them?
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I've had a chance to run the duratracs SL 255/75/17 on my FX pro rims before switching to KO2 265/70/17 LR C. Obviously the duratracs were a little more comfortable (you feel less road imperfections) due to its softer sidewall and possibly softer compound, but the steering feel is noticeably less direct and have a bit of a lag in steering input at higher highway speeds. I much prefer the feeling of direct steering control over the negligible comfort gains. The duratracs were surprisingly quiet even at highway speeds, they had a slight hum which I actually enjoyed while the KO2 were a tad quieter on highway.
I didn't get a chance to take the duratracs into serious terrain but I did have a chance to take them onto some slightly unmaintained service roads. This was the deal breaker for me, the duratracs had me sliding and unable to hold a line whole lot more than usual compared to my original KO's. I don't know if it that was attributed to the skinner/taller tire or just the tire design itself but I was not into them in that aspect. Another thing that convinced me to change them out for KO2 was the sidewall durability. They might have been fine offroad but it was always in the back of my mind that they weren't as stout
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06-17-2016, 09:31 PM
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Az Off Road is The 1 Reason I will Not Consider these Tires. I Like to Go Off Road and Come Back...Without Flats.
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Yep, one of my sidewall splits was in AZ. I'll never run them again but will run AZ trails again!
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06-17-2016, 10:50 PM
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Yep, one of my sidewall splits was in AZ. I'll never run them again but will run AZ trails again!
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SOOOO many good trails here!
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Same here but it's always nice to run something very different. We've only run a few when we were in the area for other reasons. One of these seasons we'll make a dedicated trip just for wheeling.
As a matter of fact one of my sidewall splits was in AZ. Had fun on Hog Canyon (?) but we were solo and are accustomed to wheeling on the rocks so the sand was quite an adventure. It would have been nice to have someone else with us but chose keeping safe instead of buried in the sand!
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06-18-2016, 12:59 AM
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SOOOO many good trails here!
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Yes Sir there Sure Are...
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06-18-2016, 11:21 AM
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I'm running P rated 265/70R17 Duratracs on my Tacoma. Their load rating at 2679lbs each is more than double my truck weight and hauling capacity. I don't offroad near sharp rocks or where airing down is needed so these fit the bill. They were a lot cheaper than the LTs and weight less so my little 4cyl can lug them around no problem. I love em.
EDIT: Only thing I would have liked about the LTs in the white sidewall lettering. Maybe a bit old man of me but I always liked how white lettering contrasts with a black sidewall
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They're great in snow but crap off-road. I've had two sidewalls split and will never buy these expensive pieces of crap again. Just wanted to let those of you who get off the pavement that these are not the tires you want.
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Same. They've been great in snow, ice, rain, dirt, rocks, but after two sidewall splits from hitting rocks (we weren't even in anything sharp) I'm about over it. Granted I'm running Ps, which have softer sidewalls, but I'll be upgrading to some E rated Coopers. I'll take the mpg hit to not have to worry about making it home or replacing tires after I get home.
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I know this is an old thread, but I have been researching this too and have a question or two maybe some of y'all can answer. I found out that the LT has a deeper tread pattern and more aggressive side lung pattern than the P rated tire in some other brands but does anyone know about the Duratrac or have you actually seen them side by side? Just curious. I may be willing to go with the LT if it has larger lugs and/or sidewall pattern.
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I know this is an old thread, but I have been researching this too and have a question or two maybe some of y'all can answer. I found out that the LT has a deeper tread pattern and more aggressive side lung pattern than the P rated tire in some other brands but does anyone know about the Duratrac or have you actually seen them side by side? Just curious. I may be willing to go with the LT if it has larger lugs and/or sidewall pattern.
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https://tiresize.com/tires/Goodyear/...r-DuraTrac.htm
assuming you are going 265/70/17
P is 16/32 tread
LT is 18/32 tread
My brother has P and I have LT 285's When they are side by side you can tell slightly the difference. But when apart, its hard to tell. Shoulder lugs look the same, depth couldn't tell much because I have way more miles than his. The P has a more rounded edge than the LT.
I even have some pics! I will attach from my phone!
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Load info?!?
Bumping this thread in hopes of some insight.
Trying to decide between tires, and found something funny that doesn't make sense. WTH is going on?
SL load rated Duratrac:
WRANGLER DURATRACSize: 265/70R17Service Description:115S Load Range: SLUTQG: 500 B BMax Load: 2679 lbs.Max Inflation Pressure:
C load rated Duratrac:
WRANGLER DURATRACSize: LT265/70R17Service Description:112/109Q Load Range: CUTQG: NoneMax Load: 2470 lbs.Max Inflation Pressure:
So the SL's have a higher load rating and the higher inflation pressure. This shouldn't be the case. If you reduce the SL rates tires load by 9% (I've heard you do this) they are almost identical.
Does this mean the SL rated Duratracs have thicker sidewalls?
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Bumping this thread in hopes of some insight.
Trying to decide between tires, and found something funny that doesn't make sense. WTH is going on?
SL load rated Duratrac:
WRANGLER DURATRACSize: 265/70R17Service Description:115S Load Range: SLUTQG: 500 B BMax Load: 2679 lbs.Max Inflation Pressure:
C load rated Duratrac:
WRANGLER DURATRACSize: LT265/70R17Service Description:112/109Q Load Range: CUTQG: NoneMax Load: 2470 lbs.Max Inflation Pressure:
So the SL's have a higher load rating and the higher inflation pressure. This shouldn't be the case. If you reduce the SL rates tires load by 9% (I've heard you do this) they are almost identical.
Does this mean the SL rated Duratracs have thicker sidewalls?
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No.
Max pressure for the LT is 50psi.
For the Standard Load (which in this case is a metric size -- a very close equivalent of P-metric) its 36psi.
Same size LT tires (in the case of 265/70/17) require an additional about 12psi to match the load capacity of a Standard Load tire. That is why the two tires have similar load capacities at significantly different air pressures.
The thicker, stronger construction of an LT is to accommodate additional air pressure which is what is required to increase load capacity, but the thicker construction, by itself -- with no pressure adjustment, actually decreases load capacity (creates more heat, more prone to long term cracking) leaving the LT tire needing extra air to achieve parity with the SL tire.
LT tires need more presssure
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Max pressure for the LT is 50psi.
For the Standard Load (which in this case is a metric size -- a very close equivalent of P-metric) its 36psi.
Same size LT tires (in the case of 265/70/17) require an additional about 12psi to match the load capacity of a Standard Load tire. That is why the two tires have similar load capacities at significantly different air pressures.
The thicker, stronger construction of an LT is to accommodate additional air pressure which is what is required to increase load capacity, but the thicker construction, by itself -- with no pressure adjustment, actually decreases load capacity (creates more heat, more prone to long term cracking) leaving the LT tire needing extra air to achieve parity with the SL tire.
LT tires need more presssure
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Thanks for confirming what I thought it should be, BUT I screwed up and didn't paste the air pressure for either. The SL has an inflation pressure of 51. The LT C version has an inflation pressure of 50. I checked two sites to confirm. What am I missing?
SpecificationsGOODYEARWRANGLER DURATRACSize: 265/70R17Service Description:115S Load Range: SLUTQG: 500 B BMax Load: 2679 lbs.Max Inflation Pressure:51 psiTread Depth:16/32"Tire Weight: 44 lbs.Rim Width Range:7-9"Measured Rim Width:
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