[Inv4drZm]

Originally Posted by Too_will

Is there anyway you can send me information/measurements on how to build the tire carrier and skid plates you made? I want to make practically the same thing. I got a guy that can cut metal for me too.

Yes, I've had a few people request this. I will try and get some measurements soon. The two rear skid plates I made took me an afternoon of measuring under my vehicle. Wasn't very difficult.

The tire spindle took slightly longer trying to get the swing arm length right so the spare tire doesn't cover the tail light/turn signal but still swings out far enough not to hit the opposite tail light or body panel while allowing your hatch to swing open.

[Too_will]

Originally Posted by Inv4drZm

Yes, I've had a few people request this. I will try and get some measurements soon. The two rear skid plates I made took me an afternoon of measuring under my vehicle. Wasn't very difficult.

The tire spindle took slightly longer trying to get the swing arm length right so the spare tire doesn't cover the tail light/turn signal but still swings out far enough not to hit the opposite tail light or body panel while allowing your hatch to swing open.

Sick! Could you also shoot me info on what all you had to buy besides metal? I see the spindle piece you linked so I'll pick that up. Pretty much a guide for dummies

[Inv4drZm]

Originally Posted by Too_will

Sick! Could you also shoot me info on what all you had to buy besides metal? I see the spindle piece you linked so I'll pick that up. Pretty much a guide for dummies

I'll post a how-to on my build thread shortly.

[Inv4drZm]

Forgot to mention I made this rear platform out of 3/4" plywood and spray-bedlined it. The black bedliner might make it tricky to keep looking clean but it held up pretty good to my trip. I might try a roll-on bedliner instead to get rid of the still-visible wood grain.



On to the damage pics:













This one has a scuff mark on the bottom but it rotated it clockwise a bit. I will probably weld these to the frame on the front like my brother did:



I floored it in reverse while I was stuck vertically on "The Wall", this spindle from 4xInnovations didn't even budge pinned against the ground, and my welds held just fine:
It rained the night I got home in Kansas to remind me I need to repaint it


I heard a rock grinding by my feet on the trail and looked out the window to see my fender popped out:





Duratracs suck:





I don't think I used my sliders but I'm really glad they were there!

Also, my alignment feels all out of wack now. Must have hit a rock hard.

[Civiceg94]

Damn those duratrac took a beating. And they were my favorite tire on my old crv

[t-man]

I think if you are going to play on rocks you need a set of swampers or something similar to throw on and abuse, then put your everyday tires back on. Rocks are hard on tires! Looks like you had fun though!

Sent from the drivers seat of my 05 4runner.

[Inv4drZm]

Originally Posted by t-man

I think if you are going to play on rocks you need a set of swampers or something similar to throw on and abuse, then put your everyday tires back on. Rocks are hard on tires! Looks like you had fun though!

Sent from the drivers seat of my 05 4runner.

I'll agree with that. Even my brother's new 34" MT/Rs are pretty well worn.

They weren't cheap!!

[Inv4drZm]

I just looked more thoroughly under my truck and noticed both of the UCA uniballs and nuts were loose!!! The ones that were supposed to be like 180 ft lbs. Yikes! Maybe that has something to do with what I thought was a bumped alignment bolt. I dodged a bullet there.

[aryuary]

Congrats on your purchase. Welcome to the 4runner family. I bought my '04 new, have had it and modded it the past 11 years,and never regretted the purchase a day yet. Have fun with your build.

[markymark191]

Man your rig is beautiful! Looks so good!

[basing110]

Any measurements and or building diagram for the rear tire swing out? And do you think you could add some large rotopax pretty easily? You mentioned Building your own high clearance rear bumper.... would you scrap the tire carrier? Looks like it sits as high or higher than a cbis rear bumper

[Inv4drZm]

Originally Posted by basing110

Any measurements and or building diagram for the rear tire swing out? And do you think you could add some large rotopax pretty easily? You mentioned Building your own high clearance rear bumper.... would you scrap the tire carrier? Looks like it sits as high or higher than a cbis rear bumper

Yes, I need to post some dimensions and specs for it. Rotopax would be easy to mount, just need to integrate a bracket to hold those and the license plate. I had it designed for rotopax early on but wanted to make it quickly for my trip.

The rear bumper I had in mind would replace the rear crossmember like 4x4 Lab's. I have more clearance than CBI's because I removed the OEM tow accessory and having a 1.5" body lift and a 3" rear spring helps exaggerate it more. I barely scraped the latch mount coming off a huge rock in Fins & Things in Moab and my bumper got me stuck trying to back up a wall I couldn't drive up in Colorado and my brother had to pull me over (Note to self: Never let your brother pull you up an obstacle he already made it over, if you can help it.) So yes, I pretty much plan to scrap this swing-out in the near future if I feel up to making my own rear bumper.

From page 5 of this thread:

Originally Posted by Inv4drZm

Got the spindle in and will be finalizing the design. It can hold x2 2 gallon Rotopax. Will hopefully have a buddy at work cut this out along with my skids on the plasma table once I get those designed.

[Inv4drZm]

Didn't want to reveal this yet but...



Need to figure out which fiberglass fenders I want so I can plan the width of this bumper. Baja Designs Squadron Pro for the corner wings, a 20" LED bar for the center, and some large round HID lights for the center hoop should do nicely.

I hope nobody steals my design LOL.

[t-man]

Originally Posted by Inv4drZm

Didn't want to reveal this yet but...



Need to figure out which fiberglass fenders I want so I can plan the width of this bumper. Baja Designs Squadron Pro for the corner wings, a 20" LED bar for the center, and some large round HID lights for the center hoop should do nicely.

I hope nobody steals my design LOL.

Saved. Screenshot taken. Printed. Working on production now! lmfao
Looks good man! I really need to do this one of these days.

[Inv4drZm]

Alright! The moment you've all been waiting for people! My how-to on my rear tire carrier swing-out! Time to break out your reading glasses.



Steel Materials:

• 41" 2" square tubing for main arm.
• 20" 2" square tubing for vertical tire support.
• 6" 2" square tubing for wheel mount standoff.
• 1/4" plate gussets for upright tire support.
• Steel unthreaded spacer McMaster-Carr # 92415A159 for inside the swing arm to locate the latch pin.
• 3 studs to mount spare tire.
• T-Handle Push-button Pin McMaster-Carr # 93750A713

Latch system:

I used the same 2" square tubing and cut off 3 of the sides most of the way down a 3" section. I then welded on the CNC-cut top and bottom plates of the latch with 1/2" bushings from McMaster Carr. I went with a pin because I knew I would be paranoid of it swinging out while driving if I used a bolt with a welded on handle or a red-handled latch and I only wanted to use 1 hand to open it. These other two options would be easier to keep from rattling though. I had a perfect fit with my latch system; it slid in so smooth and hardly had any play. But the way it's designed (metal on metal) if there was half a millimeter of play, it would rattle when you drove it. I temporarily placed a small rubber strand which gets pinched when the swing-out locks in place and that little guy has solved my rattling problem (pictured below). If I were to redesign the latch, I would add some rubber bushings around the pin to reduce metal on metal rattling.







Hinge System:

I used the 4Xinnovations hinge and it has worked great except for the two holes they use to locate the spring-loaded pin. The first hole the pin locks into doesn't allow the tire to swing far enough away and hits the hatch when it opens. I welded in a steel spacer plate in the stainless steel plate that comes with the kit so the spring-loaded pin slides overtop the hole and into the next one. This all depends on where you weld the spring-loaded pin in relation to the spindle so don't just weld it anywhere! Unfortunately the steel I welded in of course caused some rust issues in the stainless plate.



Other Design Considerations:

The most important thing with a swing-out on our trucks- make sure when the hatch door opens it clears the tire!! Mine does by 2-3" with a 33" tire so I'm pretty sure a 35 would fit. This is a function of the length of the swing arm aka the distance the tire is mounted from the spindle and where the spindle gets welded to the frame. My spindle plate from the 4Xinnovations kit is welded hanging off the right side of my frame an inch or so to get the arm distance as long as possible shown in the below picture. You probably don't want your tire to cover up your rear tailight so it involves a bit of math. (Or guess and check)

I welded the latch to the truck with the tire mounted on the swing arm. Without the tire mounted, I have to push down on the arm to get it to latch.

You will need to relocate your license plate and add a light.

I had to remove the factory towing accessory because of how close I wanted the swing arm to the frame and the accessory has a plate that bolts to the center of the rear crossmember and sticks out. I didn't really mind losing it because I wanted as large of departure angle as possible.

I can see the rear tire in the rearview mirror bounce front to back a bit even on the interstate, but it survived a 2000mi wheeling trip to Moab and Colorado so I'm not too concerned. I think most of this comes from the torsional stress (twisting) of the swing arm and less from the vertical tire support tube. I would make sure to use some thick-walled tubing for the swing arm unlike me where I could only find like .1" wall at work.

I obviously trimmed the rear bumper with a dremel, the pictures are pretty self-explanatory. There is a gap below the grey tread plate from my body lift and if I would have welded the tire carrier a bit higher it would have covered this up. But since I trimmed the rear bumper this tread plate basically has no support underneath so I will need to add a spacer like the factory foam piece that fits under there if I plan on using the tread plate.



For more pictures- they are a couple pages back in this build thread.



Resources:

Spare tire carrier - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

Rear Tire Carrier

t4rman's build - Page 11 - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

chiplee's LTD '04 V8 - Page 2 - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

What did you do with your 4runner today?

Show me your homemade bumper swing outs! - Page 3 - Expedition Portal

Now go and build your own! Don't bother me about selling one to you.

Update

This whole time I thought it was my latch that was the weak point allowing the tire to continuously rock front to back an inch on certain parts of the interstate, making me nervous watching it in the rearview mirror. As you can see I've continued to weld scrap metal on to try and stop this. I bought a destaco 334 latch clamp and welded it on this weekend to find out it really didn't help either. My end conclusion is that the main tube is simply too weak to support the tire's torsional stress; it just twists even though the two ends are solidly anchored. I could only find this thin wall 2" tube at work at the time. Wish I used 1/4 wall.

I learned a lot about making swing-outs, and this one will still hold me over until I make a full rear bumper, I know how I would improve the tire carrier for next time.

Some of my welds turned out crappy because I was in a hurry and it was breezy outside which of course blew away all the shielding gas.

















Update #2

TOYOTA SEQUOIA SWING OUT TIRE CARRIER - Geto Scoot

This is a pretty cool design on a Sequoia; they put the swingout above the tread plate. Sleeker and more protected than mine. More difficult to trim the plastic and weld the mounts though.