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Reclining 2nd row seats on T4R without 3rd row?
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I have a T4R WITHOUT the 3rd row seat. I just learned that models WITH the 3rd row have a reclining 2nd row. Pretty cool.
I wanted to see if it was possible/feasible to add the reclining option to the 2nd row seats of a non-3rd row model, such as mine.
I am aware that the seats are totally different, but maybe there's a chance the mounting brackets and hinges will swap over?
The reason I ask is that my wife sits in the back seat with our child. She has a really bad back and is tall. We take the car on a bunch of long trips during the year, so it would be nice to have that seat be a bit more comfortable.
Has anybody thought of or attempted such a thing before?
Thanks,
Robert Abuey
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01-08-2016, 12:21 AM
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I don't remember what it looks like on a 4th gen, but on the 5th gens the seats are different I believe as well as the mounting/latch point for them (It actually rotates/moves with the seat as it is reclined) which would mean that you'd need the coresponding trim panel as well..
So it'd probably at minimum be:
-Seat Frames, possibly seat cushions/cover
-Brackets
-Rear Trim Panel (That's the big hunk of plastic in the cargo area on both sides)
-Some bits and ends?
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01-08-2016, 11:51 AM
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Making it more difficult/interesting is the fact that the 60/40 is flipped on the 3rd row vehicles.
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01-08-2016, 02:21 PM
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Here's some pics of the drivers side 2nd row seat. I'm not going to say that you can't swap bits over to a non 3rd body, but you might have to get very creative. Two pics show the seat back at both extremes, to give you an idea of the recline range.
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01-08-2016, 04:17 PM
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Wow, those reclining seats look cool. Too bad they were not an option on non-3rd row equipped runners.
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01-08-2016, 07:17 PM
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Wow, this is on the 4th Gen?! I didn't know any of the 4th Gen had a reclining 2nd row. When I saw that on the 5th Gens my first though was "what took so long?"
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01-08-2016, 11:01 PM
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Here's some pics of the drivers side 2nd row seat. I'm not going to say that you can't swap bits over to a non 3rd body, but you might have to get very creative. Two pics show the seat back at both extremes, to give you an idea of the recline range.
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Hello and thanks for spending the time to shoot the pictures and share them also, I really appreciate it. That looks, well, expensive and impractical. I think I'll pass and tell my wife to deal with it!
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01-08-2016, 11:08 PM
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Here is an idea a little outside the box. We have similar issues with our truck. I am having an car upholstery shop remake the foam in the back seat to change the angle and make it more comfortable. He is doing the entire interior so a firm cost is hard to put together but I believe the foam work for the rear seat is about $3-400. However, he is custom fitting the seats to the each occupant. This will hopefully limit the complaining on long ski trips . If just modifying the foam it may be a little less.
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01-09-2016, 12:33 AM
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Fafafooey, don't necessarily give up on this yet, it might not be that bad. I don't think you'd need to change the side body panels as the folding seat don't attach to them the was the 2 row only seats do.
This might be a simple swap of the whole second row. Just need to confirm that the hinge attachment points are the same as well at the bars/catches under the rear of the seat that holds them from folding; see the 4th & 5th pictures above.
Can't imagine the body attachment points would be completely different between 2 & 3 row models.
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Hello and thanks for spending the time to shoot the pictures and share them also, I really appreciate it. That looks, well, expensive and impractical. I think I'll pass and tell my wife to deal with it!
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How hard would it be to remove the back seat your wife uses and install a front passenger seat complete?
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01-09-2016, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by techno
Here's some pics of the drivers side 2nd row seat. I'm not going to say that you can't swap bits over to a non 3rd body, but you might have to get very creative. Two pics show the seat back at both extremes, to give you an idea of the recline range.
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Are those from your 08? cause if they are it looks to be a direct swap. And i would lave to have those in my truck hehe
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01-09-2016, 09:45 AM
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Yes, they're from my 08, but you can swap from any 3rd row equipped 04 to 09. Have fun replacing the entire floor! Lol
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01-09-2016, 09:03 PM
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Has anyone figured out if this can be done yet?
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01-09-2016, 09:37 PM
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There's a 5th set of body mounts for 3rd row seat equipped 4Runners
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01-30-2017, 10:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fafafooey
Hello,
I have a T4R WITHOUT the 3rd row seat. I just learned that models WITH the 3rd row have a reclining 2nd row. Pretty cool.
I wanted to see if it was possible/feasible to add the reclining option to the 2nd row seats of a non-3rd row model, such as mine.
I am aware that the seats are totally different, but maybe there's a chance the mounting brackets and hinges will swap over?
The reason I ask is that my wife sits in the back seat with our child. She has a really bad back and is tall. We take the car on a bunch of long trips during the year, so it would be nice to have that seat be a bit more comfortable.
Has anybody thought of or attempted such a thing before?
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Robert Abuey
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I'm actually looking to go the other way. The 2nd row seats on non 3rd row equipped T4Rs take up much less space when folded down. I need as much cargo room as possible so if anyone can determine that this is a relatively easy or straight forward swap, I'd be happy to put my reclining 2nd row seats on the block.
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