Update to my update:

Ditched the atoto unit as ive been fighting them for a week about why its not fitting and showing evidence why.

So, i took a chance and ordered the pioneer DMH-2660NEX. Im very pleased. Android auto runs flawlessly, the screen is responsive, and it retained the steering wheel controls and aux because i ordered from crutchfield with the toyota harness, and the backup camera picture is clear. The natika camera is holding up well. Obviously it doesnt fit the oem spot perfectly which is kind of a bummer, buuuut, with the metra dash kit it doesnt look bad at all. Plus the added functionality and the assurance of a pioneer unit more than makes up for it.
I rcommend this unit, and it didn't break the bank all in

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IIRC, from the beginning, Android Auto headunits have been able to use an onboard GPS antenna to supplement the phone's built-in receiver. I guess the theory being the vehicle mounted antenna can be both more sensitive and also better positioned to see the sky than wherever your phone might end up sitting in the vehicle.

Another possible explanation is from their AA introduction, Pioneer included a navigation option in the description of their low/mid range AA units. At least once upon a time, the higher end AA units also had built-in navigation for use instead of AA maps, if you preferred. I've never actually seen the navigation add-on item(s) for sell anywhere, though.

One has to remember that when AA was originally introduced, Google Maps and Waze didn't have offline modes. No network, no navigation. I think earlier phone hardware also had less robust GPS reception making it more dependent on network location services and/or benefiting more from an external antenna than current phones do. As people became more dependent on phones for navigation, the hardware got better, just like the cameras.

Or I could have dreamed all of this...

Does anybody have experience with Crux CS-TJ20 Wiring Interface sold by Crutchfield? I'm looking at getting the Pioneer AVH-2550NEX unit for my 05 4runner with JBL.

Picked up the JVC KW-V250BT from Best Buy, on sale for only $179. No nav, but I use my phone for nav anyways. Not a lot of bells and whistles, but does everything I want, including Appleplay, Bluetooth, Sirrus XM, etc. Nice sound, we are pleased.

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Wait not all 4runners have the rear tail window up down option?

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I think the 2009s had them near the shifter.


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That would probably mean it was a 2-year only change? Seems odd.

Got my Pioneer AVH-2550NEX installed. Pretty nice unit overall and does everything I need it to I believe. Upgraded from my Kenwood DDX-471HD primarily only because I wanted apple CarPlay. Got the lights, scene, and background orange to match pretty close too.

The free wiring patch cables and kit from Crutchfield were super simple and color coded. It definitely sits deeper into the opening so it was a challenge to get all the wiring out of the way behind there. Took a few try’s in and out but got it.

It works well with new to me right hand side steering wheel Bluetooth buttons (while phone’s unplugged).

Used my Axxess ASWC-1 steering wheel controller that I already had and steering wheel controls work perfect.

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The new kenwood dmx4707s CarPlay capacitive touch 300 bones!

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Cost?

Not sure if you were asking about the kenwood but $300.

I wish I hit 18mpg. I've been looking at Pioneer DMH-2660NEX as well, looks good installed. What did you guys do for speakers? Any of you guys with the jbl?

Ha it’s only 18 because my computer had just been reset I get closer to 15... I’m running jbl club 9200cam in the front and jbl club 5020 in the back. Very impressed with the performance of the jbl stuff.

There are currently no harnesses for a 2020 model. Really disappointed I can’t change the head unit but then again it’s not that bad. It’s fairly functional.


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I'm interested in these new Pioneer NEX head units, but they seem to be Single DIN. Is there no way to get a Single DIN system to fit on a 4th Gen?