Originally Posted by t-man

Lol, we finally got some snow! Went wheeling with my buddy. Check out my build thread, 2.5' of fresh powder was fun.
I would assume the 6112 would handle things better, not sure on the 5160. I know I'll never buy another bilstein product again! Complete crap so far. Lol

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Originally Posted by Inv4drZm

You already have the Metaltech lower links so all you would have to do is unthread the end an inch and reinstall them. This would keep 35's from stuffing near the rear door by pushing them back toward the middle of the wheel well giving your axle more range of movement.

Originally Posted by 4rcybr

So what would you recommend if not bilstein?

My brother lives in Michigan right now-when he was out for Thanksgiving we got him snow here in SoCal, before he'd had any back there.

Originally Posted by t-man

I think body lift a got a bad name from years ago when guys modified hockey pucks for their chevy trucks. For obvious reasons of stacked spacers, unsafe spacers. And a complete hack job this allowed movement and created issues of course. Movement equals breakage!
No lift means lower cog, yes, but then fitting tires poses an issue. As @Inv4drZm said, if you put a 2" body lift and suspension lifted trucks side by side the suspension lifted truck will have a slightly higher cog because it moves everything up, whereas a body lift left the heavy drive train and frame below. The disadvantage now becomes that you didn't really improve ground clearance with the body lift, the tires do that, which would be on both trucks. A suspension lift on the other hand technically gives you more ground clearance, although the rear pumpkin is still in the same spot and only goes up with the tires too. Now, to add to this, usually with a lift a person puts on bigger tires, which usually requires moving the tires out too. This effectively makes your vehicle more stable as now it has a wider footprint. Kind of like if you stand with your feet together and someone pushes you, it's hard not to lean. Spread your legs out a little and it becomes much easier to resist that force and stand up tall.
With my truck being as tall as it is, and no sway bars, and remember I don't have better springs really either, just Tacoma and FJ coils, that I still don't feel like my truck is tippy. Yes it leans, but I never feel I'm in danger. I put it through some pretty hairy shit without issue or fear of tipping. I don't rock crawl, so I can't give an experienced opinion there, but I definitely get in some off camber spots in the woods and ditches!
So back to the body lift speech, if you put a quality lift on, that uses blocks as wide or wider than the bushings, heavier hardware to support it, torque it down properly and check later I believe you aren't hurting anything. Vehicle, cog, etc. Especially with our trucks and the lack of fender openings, and that damn rear door in the fender!, unless you are limiting travel, boooo , you will hit and rub and have issues. Unless as stated, you move the rear axle back and trim the rear of the fender.
Ok, I rambled enough...

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Originally Posted by 4thgenblake

So, can I add spacers to my suspension lift to gain some extra height? Like spidertrax, or some 1.5-2 inch spacers on my front coils and rear coils? How would that affect performance. I want to gain a little more height when I move up in tire size. (I don't think my adjustable coils could be spanned to lift the front much more given that it has to be uneven due to weight on drivers side? Or it'll throw my bilsteins off? I don't really know the settings. I'll have to take it somewhere to figure that out. Can ya clear that up for me? Lol

Originally Posted by 4thgenblake

So, can I add spacers to my suspension lift to gain some extra height? Like spidertrax, or some 1.5-2 inch spacers on my front coils and rear coils? How would that affect performance. I want to gain a little more height when I move up in tire size. (I don't think my adjustable coils could be spanned to lift the front much more given that it has to be uneven due to weight on drivers side? Or it'll throw my bilsteins off? I don't really know the settings. I'll have to take it somewhere to figure that out. Can ya clear that up for me? Lol

Originally Posted by t-man

Well the problem with putting spacers on top of Bilsteins is they are already extended travel shocks. In fact, they are longer than all the extended travel options out there if I remember correctly. When you add a spacer on top of them it allows your suspension to drop to far, killing your bushings, balljoints, tie rods and cv axles. Mall crawler could probably get away with it, but if you go offroad you'll tear it up.

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Originally Posted by CruzadoBlanco

pppfffftt get out of here with your logic and reason.

but seriously i run a spacer on top of my BOSS coilovers that are set at 1.5" and my limit in down travel is my UCA hitting the spring. now is it the best thing for all parts involved? no definitely not, but if kept in check and maintained no issues should be had. i just now need to replace/reboot my CVs after 2years.

Originally Posted by t-man

Lol!
Bilsteins extend further than the boss though. Still have stock uca?

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Originally Posted by CruzadoBlanco

hell no. i would never be able to get the ~10" of front suspension travel i have with stock UCAs. i have the Ebay uniballs and love them. it was written out in my post just before this and in my sig. should i buy you hooked on phonics for christmas?

and plus the UCA would be the limiting factor anyways so extended travel or not a spacer will still net roughly the same travel depending on which UCA is installed

Originally Posted by Troymclure

I guess I can post here haha. Been running 35's for about 1.5 years now. Dont know if it will be much help to anyone since I have a lot of stuff most do not have on their trucks, but here it goes.
Tires:
Ive had both Toyo Open Country MT's and BFG KO2's in a 35x12.5r17. Rim size is 17x9 with about 4" of backspacing. Running a 1.25" spacer in the rear

Suspension:
Front: Custom +4.5" each side long travel kit
Probably about 3" higher than stock, although its hard to tell at this point
Rear: OME 895 springs with Icon Aluminum 2.0 shocks
(Soon to be leaf spring swapped with Deaver F67's and most likely 12" shackles with 12" or 14" stroke shocks, axle will be moved back about 3/4" to help with clearance)
1.5" Body lift
No bumpstop extension, front or rear

Body Mods:
Body mount chopped
Trimmed Fiberwerx front fenders
Trimmed ~1" from the rear bumper in fender well area
Front tube bumper I built

Fit:
Clears lock to lock full compression in the front
Slight rub in rear on door in fenderwell, but not much can be done about that

Other Mods:
Regeared front and rear with Yukon 4.88's, solid spacer in the rear
CVJ 4130 front axle shafts running OEM outer CV's

Originally Posted by Troymclure

I guess I can post here haha. Been running 35's for about 1.5 years now. Dont know if it will be much help to anyone since I have a lot of stuff most do not have on their trucks, but here it goes.
Tires:
Ive had both Toyo Open Country MT's and BFG KO2's in a 35x12.5r17. Rim size is 17x9 with about 4" of backspacing. Running a 1.25" spacer in the rear

Suspension:
Front: Custom +4.5" each side long travel kit
Probably about 3" higher than stock, although its hard to tell at this point
Rear: OME 895 springs with Icon Aluminum 2.0 shocks
(Soon to be leaf spring swapped with Deaver F67's and most likely 12" shackles with 12" or 14" stroke shocks, axle will be moved back about 3/4" to help with clearance)
1.5" Body lift
No bumpstop extension, front or rear

Body Mods:
Body mount chopped
Trimmed Fiberwerx front fenders
Trimmed ~1" from the rear bumper in fender well area
Front tube bumper I built

Fit:
Clears lock to lock full compression in the front
Slight rub in rear on door in fenderwell, but not much can be done about that

Other Mods:
Regeared front and rear with Yukon 4.88's, solid spacer in the rear
CVJ 4130 front axle shafts running OEM outer CV's

Originally Posted by Troymclure

(Soon to be leaf spring swapped with Deaver F67's and most likely 12" shackles with 12" or 14" stroke shocks, axle will be moved back about 3/4" to help with clearance)

Originally Posted by CruzadoBlanco

whats your travel from full bump to full drop with that custom front LT set up. i was able to milk the OEM geometry for 10"

Originally Posted by HOJeepster

I think this is the first time I've seen your truck, looks unique, I like.

Originally Posted by CruzadoBlanco

whats your travel from full bump to full drop with that custom front LT set up. i was able to milk the OEM geometry for 10"

Originally Posted by t-man

Deavers? Nice! You better do a write up this time!
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