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I had a 2010 Trail Edition. Bought it and never went off road with it.... didn't want to scratch an expensive machine like that. Then I moved to Arizona and traded it for a new Caddy. Missed having a more utility vehicle, so I bought a Jeep Rubicon to go with the Caddy. Didn't like the harsh ride of the Jeep, or the noise and spartan interior. I ended up buying my 2007 Sport with the V-8. All I can say, is I love it. I think it handles better than my 2010, cost a hell of a lot less, has a lot of potential for my needs and I am happy. I really don't like the looks of the newer model either (even though I had one!). If the next generation is to my liking, maybe I'll sell the Caddy and my '07 and go for a new one...will wait and see.
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I'm looking at 5th gens because the headroom on the 4th gens is terrible. I'm only 6'1", but my head brushes the ceiling, and Toyota apparently thought being able to adjust the seats downward was unnecessary.
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I'm looking at 5th gens because the headroom on the 4th gens is terrible. I'm only 6'1", but my head brushes the ceiling, and Toyota apparently thought being able to adjust the seats downward was unnecessary.
What am I missing? Did not every model come with height adjustable seats?

I have that adjustment on mine...
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I'm looking at 5th gens because the headroom on the 4th gens is terrible. I'm only 6'1", but my head brushes the ceiling, and Toyota apparently thought being able to adjust the seats downward was unnecessary.
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What am I missing? Did not every model come with height adjustable seats?

I have that adjustment on mine...
I am 6'6" and have owned a 08' Sport Edition (black cloth patterned seats) and now have an 05' Limited. My Limited seats definitely have more adjustability built into them giving me more headroom.

@LTDSC did a mod to the rear seat mount that gained him a lot of headroom as per his build thread. FYI
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12 years with my '05...have to resist a 5th/6th gen...please.
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keeping 4th gen buying 5th gen.

She travels to the beach alone at night and was nervous in a ten year old car with 104k miles.
Two things have broken as of late, the alternator and a half shaft boot.
It's no longer a kind world for women broken down alone. If it ever was.
The 5th gen 2016 is now the beach car and the 2008 is the around town driver.
It makes her happy, and it fits the budget. No, we don't wish to sell the one owner well maintained 2008, because where could we find such a creme puff.
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What am I missing? Did not every model come with height adjustable seats?

I have that adjustment on mine...
My '04 Sport driver seat is not adjustable. I'm tall and have to take off my hat to drive, no biggy. But, I also have to slump down to look at stop lights. No regrets, I love the Runner, but at the time I got the Runner, I couldn't find a suitable Sequoia, which was what I was after.
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I have no desire to buy a 5th gen 4-Runner

I bought my 2006 Limited T4R back in 2011 and don't have any future plans in selling or trading it in for a 5th gen T4R. I originally bought mine because I love the body style and the V8. Mine just went over the 100,000 mile mark on the odometer and I'm looking forward to putting on another 100,000
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I am 6'6" and have owned a 08' Sport Edition (black cloth patterned seats) and now have an 05' Limited. My Limited seats definitely have more adjustability built into them giving me more headroom.

@LTDSC did a mod to the rear seat mount that gained him a lot of headroom as per his build thread. FYI
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My '04 Sport driver seat is not adjustable. I'm tall and have to take off my hat to drive, no biggy. But, I also have to slump down to look at stop lights. No regrets, I love the Runner, but at the time I got the Runner, I couldn't find a suitable Sequoia, which was what I was after.
Thanks for all that info... I have an SR5 with manual height adjustment and I just assumed they were all the same if not better on things like the Limited.
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What am I missing? Did not every model come with height adjustable seats?

I have that adjustment on mine...
Maybe it's an SE thing? All I know is I have lumbar, seat tilt, forward/back, and recline adjustments, but no outright up/down.

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I am 6'6" and have owned a 08' Sport Edition (black cloth patterned seats) and now have an 05' Limited. My Limited seats definitely have more adjustability built into them giving me more headroom.

@LTDSC did a mod to the rear seat mount that gained him a lot of headroom as per his build thread. FYI
Huh, so maybe it's just a Limited feature? That would be obnoxious, but good to know at least. I'll try to find that mod/build thread, too, thanks.
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I was hesitant to get a 4th gen because the 3rd Gen was so tight inside. I'm 6'4" and even with the seat gangster leaning in the 3rd Gen my head hits the roof. I was concerned the 4th gen would be similar, but I have plenty of headroom. 2006 SR5 with auto seat adjustments and no sunroof. Seat is all the way down with little to no lean and I easily have four inches of headroom.
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OK, I'll play!

Have a 2007 Limited V8 with 80,000 miles on the clock.

Was planning to sell it and get a 2017 5th Gen. But my wife decided she'd rather keep the old 4Runner as her vehicle, and sell our Audi.

So we now have the 4th Gen and a 2017 TRD Off Road Premium. Here's my take:

Advantage 4th Gen:
  • V8 vs V6...BUT this is virtually a tie IMHO. Per the specs, the two are pretty close, with the V6 producing more HP, but less torque. I definitely like the V8's low end. So the 8 cyl. narrowly comes out on top
  • Sound - the V8 clearly wins here
  • Percieved turning radius. Specs say they are identical, but the 4th Gen seems like it has a small advantage to me
  • No "secret compartment" in the glovebox in the 5th Gen

Advantage 5th Gen:
  • Looks (IMHO), but like the engine, this one is really close in my book. And it depends largely on what trim level you've got, how they are modded etc.
  • Interior look and feel. I'm pretty anal about taking care of my cars, and the leather in the 4th Gen looks like crap. I'm actually liking the SofTex in the 5th Gen, and I'm hopeful it'll hold up better. While both vehicles seem "plasticy" compared to German vehicles I've owned, I prefer the 5th Gen look and feel overall. Oh, and when you shut the doors on the 5th Gen it reminds me more of an Audi, while the 4th Gen sounds like my old F250 pickup
  • Seats. This one is no question in my mind, and sort of a big deal. I think the 4th Gen front seats suck, and are basically painfull after anything more than about 45 minutes
  • Lighting - interior and exterior
  • Electronics and other modern stuff. Not even close - even thought the 4th Gen was the Limited, having more modern Nav, Bluetooth, Entune, voice recognition, reverse cam, heated wipers and mirrors etc. is a treat in the 5th Gen

I'd say the auto dual climate setup in the Limited and the "manual" controls in the 5th Gen are a tie.

The great thing: they both have rear windows that go down!

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Took the words right out of my mouth the TRD BRO, is nice, but by no means an offroad warrior, and the minute you said Rav4 Discovery I was wondering why Toyota is trying to compete in the Trailhawk region....I mean there can only be so many 45 year old males who convinced their wife that they NEEDED a "TRAIL RATED" compact SUV...haha
Hahahahaha! You sir, took the words right out of my mouth!
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