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CrikeyMike could you help me out on this?
IMS59-50220 with C59-314 front I am good on this setup.
I want about 2 1/2 inches in the rear. Could I put the C59-675V with the IMS59-50701 and be able to accomplish this? On my 2020 4runner I have the IMS59-50701 with the C59-325 but that's supposed to be 2 inch lift I love this setup.
If I use IMS59-50701 with the C59-325 and add a 1/2 inch cornfed spacer on top of coil would I come out better?
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This is what you should do for 2.5"
the C59-675V with the IMS59-50701
4th gens are heavier in the back than the 5th gens, so the 325's don't lift as much
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01-15-2021, 10:42 PM
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Dobinsons Suspension - 4th Gen Options
Building my next lift to replace my current Radflo setup, I want to maintain the same amount of lift and look. Would the below list do that?
Dobinsons 1″ to 3.5″ MRA Lift Kit for Toyota 4Runner 4×4 2003-2009
C59-354 - With 220-300lbs - 2.5" | Heavy rate coils
MRA59-A221 - MRA 3-way adjustable w/resi monotube (0-2.5" lifts)
C59-701V - 3" long travel, 600-800lbs weight
MRA59-A575 - MRA 3-way adj w/resi monotube long travel 3"+ lifts
Dobinsons Pair of Strut Top Plates (SC59-001)
Dobinsons Extended Rear Swaybar End Link Kit
Dobinsons Adjustable Rear Lower Control Arms
Dobinsons WA59-522K Adjustable Rear Upper Trailing Arms
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01-17-2021, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mysticz
Building my next lift to replace my current Radflo setup, I want to maintain the same amount of lift and look. Would the below list do that?
Dobinsons 1″ to 3.5″ MRA Lift Kit for Toyota 4Runner 4×4 2003-2009
C59-354 - With 220-300lbs - 2.5" | Heavy rate coils
MRA59-A221 - MRA 3-way adjustable w/resi monotube (0-2.5" lifts)
C59-701V - 3" long travel, 600-800lbs weight
MRA59-A575 - MRA 3-way adj w/resi monotube long travel 3"+ lifts
Dobinsons Pair of Strut Top Plates (SC59-001)
Dobinsons Extended Rear Swaybar End Link Kit
Dobinsons Adjustable Rear Lower Control Arms
Dobinsons WA59-522K Adjustable Rear Upper Trailing Arms
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Nothing to compare it to.
What lift height do you have now? What are your hub to fender measurements? What front and rear constant accessory weight is on the vehicle?
All that info will be needed to make a comparison.
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01-17-2021, 01:48 PM
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Nothing to compare it to.
What lift height do you have now? What are your hub to fender measurements? What front and rear constant accessory weight is on the vehicle?
All that info will be needed to make a comparison.
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Measurements: Front is 23.5 hub to fender and Rear 24" hub to fender
Constant Weight:
Radflo 2.5 Coilovers with Radflo 2.5 Long Travel
Plate Steel Front Bumper with Winch
Plate Steel Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Out
Full Set Skids including Gas Tank
Rocksliders
Roof Rack (Mounted RTT for Overland Trips Only)
Rear Storage with Fridge
Current Stance:
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01-17-2021, 02:34 PM
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Questions about Adj Panhard Bar Vs EIMKeith PCK
Ive been all over, trying to get answers on why I can't have the Dobs Adj Panhard Bar over the EIMKeith PCK?
I figured that's what the Adj Panhard Rod was for. Dobinson recommended it since im doing the LT Kit and doing 3"+ lift. I ordered the Adj Sway Bar links, the Break Line Ext, and the 3" Bumpstop Ext. figured I was all complete.
so what's the big difference over the Adj Panhard Rod and the Correction Kit from EIMKeith?? anyone know? did I make the mistake of ordering the Dobinson Panhard rod??
I appreciate all the input about this if possible.
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Originally Posted by 4Runn1nYota
Ive been all over, trying to get answers on why I can't have the Dobs Adj Panhard Bar over the EIMKeith PCK?
I figured that's what the Adj Panhard Rod was for. Dobinson recommended it since im doing the LT Kit and doing 3"+ lift. I ordered the Adj Sway Bar links, the Break Line Ext, and the 3" Bumpstop Ext. figured I was all complete.
so what's the big difference over the Adj Panhard Rod and the Correction Kit from EIMKeith?? anyone know? did I make the mistake of ordering the Dobinson Panhard rod??
I appreciate all the input about this if possible.
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The idea is that you want the panhard closest to level at static height to work best.
When you lift the rig, having a fixed panhard will move the axle to one side...the adjustable panhard bar lets you adjust for that, but won't bring the bar back to level.
Correction kit gives you some adjustment points to bring it to level, and might not need an adjustable bar.
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01-18-2021, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mysticz
Measurements: Front is 23.5 hub to fender and Rear 24" hub to fender
Constant Weight:
Radflo 2.5 Coilovers with Radflo 2.5 Long Travel
Plate Steel Front Bumper with Winch
Plate Steel Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Out
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Rocksliders
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Rear Storage with Fridge
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OK, so you're at 3.5" front lift now and about 2" in the rear.
You'll need to change to MRA59-A220 since they're a little longer and better suited to the taller lift you're looking for. The 701V rear coils may end up being a little taller in the rear than you are now.
Everything else looks good
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Ive been all over, trying to get answers on why I can't have the Dobs Adj Panhard Bar over the EIMKeith PCK?
I figured that's what the Adj Panhard Rod was for. Dobinson recommended it since im doing the LT Kit and doing 3"+ lift. I ordered the Adj Sway Bar links, the Break Line Ext, and the 3" Bumpstop Ext. figured I was all complete.
so what's the big difference over the Adj Panhard Rod and the Correction Kit from EIMKeith?? anyone know? did I make the mistake of ordering the Dobinson Panhard rod??
I appreciate all the input about this if possible.
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Originally Posted by jcaino
The idea is that you want the panhard closest to level at static height to work best.
When you lift the rig, having a fixed panhard will move the axle to one side...the adjustable panhard bar lets you adjust for that, but won't bring the bar back to level.
Correction kit gives you some adjustment points to bring it to level, and might not need an adjustable bar.
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You hit the nail on the head.
Adjustable panhard rod lets you center the axle, since it's adjustable.
The panhard rod is also much stronger than stock, so it's not going to flex or deflect like a stock one can under heavy abuse.
The EIMKeith PCK is for "flattening out" the rear panhard rod angle. The Dobinsons panhard rod can still work with this, since it's adjustable.
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Originally Posted by jcaino
The idea is that you want the panhard closest to level at static height to work best.
When you lift the rig, having a fixed panhard will move the axle to one side...the adjustable panhard bar lets you adjust for that, but won't bring the bar back to level.
Correction kit gives you some adjustment points to bring it to level, and might not need an adjustable bar.
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Thanks for that input.. I had no idea of the PCK until after I ordered the Adj Panhard Bar, and now im stuck with it. Might as well install it. but also going to get the PCK, since its most recommended.. my research was last min, so I didn't get the info I needed in time, because I didn't know I needed more to install. oh well. lol.
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You hit the nail on the head.
Adjustable panhard rod lets you center the axle, since it's adjustable.
The panhard rod is also much stronger than stock, so it's not going to flex or deflect like a stock one can under heavy abuse.
The EIMKeith PCK is for "flattening out" the rear panhard rod angle. The Dobinsons panhard rod can still work with this, since it's adjustable.
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Thank you as well! -- This makes me feel better about keeping the Adj. Panhard Rod, and just add the PCK. Someone mentioned both is fine, if I was OCD about the alignment. Im not entirely OCD, but id like to be as close to safety and perfection.
You guys are awesome! I appreciate the replies.
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Rear upper links
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I’m looking to replace the upper links in the rear of my 4Runner. Will the WA59-522K adjustable uppers allow pinion adjustment by themselves or will I need upper and lower? I only have budget for upper or lower until my economy is stimulated.
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I’m looking to replace the upper links in the rear of my 4Runner. Will the WA59-522K adjustable uppers allow pinion adjustment by themselves or will I need upper and lower? I only have budget for upper or lower until my economy is stimulated. |
Yes, the uppers will. You can make them longer to raise up the pinion angle.
They're sold out and we don't have an ETA on restock yet. Probably sometime in April or maybe later.
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Originally Posted by Crikeymike
OK, so you're at 3.5" front lift now and about 2" in the rear.
You'll need to change to MRA59-A220 since they're a little longer and better suited to the taller lift you're looking for. The 701V rear coils may end up being a little taller in the rear than you are now.
Everything else looks good
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The last time I was doing research on rear springs you quote the follow.
"The 701V with a solid 3" of lift should put you at 25" hub to fender in the rear."
So the 701v will add 1 inch more lift to the rear with 600-800lbs, what if I went with the 677v with 400-600lbs? Will the extra weight level it down below 1 inch? Thx
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The last time I was doing research on rear springs you quote the follow.
"The 701V with a solid 3" of lift should put you at 25" hub to fender in the rear."
So the 701v will add 1 inch more lift to the rear with 600-800lbs, what if I went with the 677v with 400-600lbs? Will the extra weight level it down below 1 inch? Thx
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That would be the only next possible step down option and still a long travel coil, but it won't be a full 1" lower most likely. Dobinsons doesn't make 2" rated long travel coils, they're all based around the 3" mark when weight is on them.
For the weight you're carrying, the 701V is the best spring to handle all that, it's just taller than what you want.
All the 2" rear coils are linear rate and can't be used with long travel shocks, they'll fall out.
Maybe some of the other guys on here running the 677V or 701V can reply with their rear weights and hub to fender measurements for comparison.
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