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@ Crikeymike
I am looking at an IMS kit for a 2008 v8. Looking at the 314’s upfront and long travel with the 675v’s out back. Truck is all stock at the moment but will be getting wheels and tires (285/70r17) at the same time.
Any suggestions one way or another here? Looking for as much articulation as possible. Truck will not be a high speed desert vehicle but will see lots of technical obstacles and washboard roads. Any concerns with up travel on the long travel rear setup?
Thank you for all of your information in this thread and on the forums!
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04-22-2024, 11:06 AM
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@ Crikeymike
I am looking at an IMS kit for a 2008 v8. Looking at the 314’s upfront and long travel with the 675v’s out back. Truck is all stock at the moment but will be getting wheels and tires (285/70r17) at the same time.
Any suggestions one way or another here? Looking for as much articulation as possible. Truck will not be a high speed desert vehicle but will see lots of technical obstacles and washboard roads. Any concerns with up travel on the long travel rear setup?
Thank you for all of your information in this thread and on the forums!
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Hey bud.
Yeah, those coils will work well on a stock truck. Long travel in the rear though requires brake lines, panhard rod, bump stops or extensions, and upper and lower trailing arms. It's all detailed on our site here:
Dobinsons 1" to 3.5" IMS Lift Kit for Toyota 4Runner 4x4 2003-2009
You can't run the LT rear shocks without the other parts in place or they will bottom out and blow out.
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04-22-2024, 12:03 PM
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@ Crikeymike
Thank you! I am aware of the extra parts required. I thought bare minimum to start was sway bar links, brake lines, and bump stops?
The 675v works with the regular rear shock as well?
Trying to get dialed before pulling the trigger. Looking for a slight rake to level as I load up for trips and occasional towing.
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04-22-2024, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wrekreate
@ Crikeymike
Thank you! I am aware of the extra parts required. I thought bare minimum to start was sway bar links, brake lines, and bump stops?
The 675v works with the regular rear shock as well?
Trying to get dialed before pulling the trigger. Looking for a slight rake to level as I load up for trips and occasional towing.
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That's the bare minimum, but for proper long travel, all the combined parts should be added. The stock upper arm on the driver's side will dig into the fuel tank at full droop if it's not changed out for an offset one.
Yes, the regular rear shocks work for any lift of 0-3"
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04-22-2024, 03:57 PM
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@ Crikeymike
Ready to pull the trigger just curious what you would recommend between the 325 and the 675v for the rear if not going with the long travel shock? Lots of wheeling and some towing in the 4k range. Want the best control in the rocks without sagging too much when loaded. With the 314’s in front. Don’t mind a little rake that levels out some when loaded/towing.
Last question and thank you again. You are a great resource on the forums!
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04-22-2024, 04:14 PM
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@ Crikeymike
Ready to pull the trigger just curious what you would recommend between the 325 and the 675v for the rear if not going with the long travel shock? Lots of wheeling and some towing in the 4k range. Want the best control in the rocks without sagging too much when loaded. With the 314’s in front. Don’t mind a little rake that levels out some when loaded/towing.
Last question and thank you again. You are a great resource on the forums!
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The 325's would definitely handle the towing better. Many people that get the 675V end up going for something stronger when towing, as they just squat down too much when loaded down with heavy tongue weight.
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05-05-2024, 04:57 PM
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Just had MRRs installed and am thinking maybe they need to be tightened more? The top hat bushing seems relatively uncompressed and the rebound adjuster is practically making contact with the wheel well. Any input based on this image? Can provide more pictures but am having technical issues with the site at the moment so getting one up is a win.
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05-06-2024, 09:51 AM
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Calling all Dobinsons gurus… (
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Just had MRRs installed and am thinking maybe they need to be tightened more? The top hat bushing seems relatively uncompressed and the rebound adjuster is practically making contact with the wheel well. Any input based on this image? Can provide more pictures but am having technical issues with the site at the moment so getting one up is a win.
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Yeah, those top bushings are not tightened down far enough. It will gain more top clearance once those are properly tight.
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05-06-2024, 12:00 PM
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Yeah, those top bushings are not tightened down far enough. It will gain more top clearance once those are properly tight.
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Is there a torque spec and procedure or just crank them down?
I leave with the family on a long road trip tomorrow and will not be able to get back to the shop that did the install as they are out of town a bit.
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Originally Posted by wrekreate
Thank you
@ Crikeymike
Is there a torque spec and procedure or just crank them down?
I leave with the family on a long road trip tomorrow and will not be able to get back to the shop that did the install as they are out of town a bit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgnJwAjQ9SQ&feature=youtu.be
You can try turning the lower nut in that photo, but most likely the shaft will spin. The top adjuster has to come off so that an allen key can go in there. The shop really had no clue what they were doing, plus they came with manuals showing all that.
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05-06-2024, 01:11 PM
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Thank you for the info
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Sounds like I may be hosed. I take it you would say this is unsafe to drive on then?
As an addition to this. The manual states the rebound adjuster has 6 clicks per full rotation. Should you be able to feel these? Mine just spin freely/smoothly from full loose to full snug (not turning past any resistance)
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05-06-2024, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wrekreate
Thank you for the info
@ Crikeymike
Sounds like I may be hosed. I take it you would say this is unsafe to drive on then?
As an addition to this. The manual states the rebound adjuster has 6 clicks per full rotation. Should you be able to feel these? Mine just spin freely/smoothly from full loose to full snug (not turning past any resistance)
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Yes, you would feel it. It's not easy to turn. You can hear it in that video. By feeling nothing, my guess is they didn't reinstall the internal grub screw and spring/ball that actually adjusts the rebound
The bushings are the most important part, they need to be tightened down so that the stud of the shock doesn't move sideways and cause damage.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wrekreate
Calling all Dobinsons gurus… (
@ Crikeymike
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Just had MRRs installed and am thinking maybe they need to be tightened more? The top hat bushing seems relatively uncompressed and the rebound adjuster is practically making contact with the wheel well. Any input based on this image? Can provide more pictures but am having technical issues with the site at the moment so getting one up is a win.
Thanks!
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I have the IMS and when installing the fronts there is a 6mm/7-32" socket in the top of the stem to hold it from turning when tightening down the bushings. I had to cut the leg down on an allen wrench to get it in there and then knock it out with a drift and hammer when finished. I like the Bilstein arrangement of flats on the top of the stem for holding with an open end wrench.
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