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Old 04-18-2017, 02:52 PM #1
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5th Gen springs vs Fj Springs on 4th Gen
I have searched far and wide (and on toyota 120) -- information is extremely conflicting on 5th gen springs vs FJ springs. Does anyone have some clear information in regards to differences?

I found some '16 5th gen springs, I'm trying to see where the will get me w/ bilstein 5100's on my 4th gen relative to FJ springs.

Any info is truly appreciated
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I have searched far and wide (and on toyota 120) -- information is extremely conflicting on 5th gen springs vs FJ springs. Does anyone have some clear information in regards to differences?

I found some '16 5th gen springs, I'm trying to see where the will get me w/ bilstein 5100's on my 4th gen relative to FJ springs.

Any info is truly appreciated

I dont have the exact specs but I believe the 5th gen rear springs are about 10% stiffer then stock 4th gen maybe 5% stiffer then FJ. for what its worth I run 5th gen Radflo 2.0 rear springs.. so they are 20% stiffer then stock 5th gen.
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cool thanks

picked up new 5th gen springs for $60 yesterday on CL

spent hours diggings through old posts yesterday, looks like they are pretty dang comparable to the FJ's. I will be doing 5100's @ 1.75 + 5th gen springs, and daystar rear 1.5" next weekend.
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check out this build, he put 5th gen springs on the front with bilsteins.

The Overland Adventures - 4th Gen Build!
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Damn, he gained a whole inch with the 5th gen's. My 5th gen springs don't have nearly that many coils hmm..
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Damn, he gained a whole inch with the 5th gen's. My 5th gen springs don't have nearly that many coils hmm..
Keep us updated on your changes and let us know how it drives for better or for worse. Should be a huge improvement.
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Damn, he gained a whole inch with the 5th gen's. My 5th gen springs don't have nearly that many coils hmm..
he gained that 1" by using the 2.5" 5100 setting and maxing out the coils preload. YMMV
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Are these a direct fit on both front and rear?
I've been thinking about a set of 5th gen stockers...
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Are these a direct fit on both front and rear?
I've been thinking about a set of 5th gen stockers...
But having installed rears from a 5th gen a while back there not really any improvement.
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But having installed rears from a 5th gen a while back there not really any improvement.
Improvement in terms of..?

The reason why i'm actually looking at the 5th gens is mainly because the Moog fjc springs apparently do not fit on our 4th gens rear axle well. FJc springs are another alternative, but I can't find them + i'd be worried about high milage.
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Improvement in terms of..?

The reason why i'm actually looking at the 5th gens is mainly because the Moog fjc springs apparently do not fit on our 4th gens rear axle well. FJc springs are another alternative, but I can't find them + i'd be worried about high milage.


Am I confused...? Cant you just buy oem fj springs from a dealer?
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Am I confused...? Cant you just buy oem fj springs from a dealer?
If you could, i'm sure you'd probably be better off buying a good set of springs from a well known off-road company..
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If you could, i'm sure you'd probably be better off buying a good set of springs from a well known off-road company..


I mean...depending on what you want to do with your truck. I'm looking to find FJ springs because I don't really want more than an inch of lift and I drive on road 80%. Presumably an off-road company would be selling springs more intended for off-roading. And I was in a dealer last week and asked if they sell oem fj springs and they said yes ($100+ each). But i'm skeptical because it seems like everybody is under the impression that they dont sell them...?
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I mean...depending on what you want to do with your truck. I'm looking to find FJ springs because I don't really want more than an inch of lift and I drive on road 80%. Presumably an off-road company would be selling springs more intended for off-roading. And I was in a dealer last week and asked if they sell oem fj springs and they said yes ($100+ each). But i'm skeptical because it seems like everybody is under the impression that they dont sell them...?
I don't know what everyones thoughts are, but i'm willing to bet that at $100+ each, majority of people will buy a set of aftermarket springs, as you can easily get a used set of FJC springs for $100~, but YMMV.
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I don't know what everyones thoughts are, but i'm willing to bet that at $100+ each, majority of people will buy a set of aftermarket springs, as you can easily get a used set of FJC springs for $100~, but YMMV.

Are there any aftermarket springs that are fairly similar to fj springs (In terms of height and stiffness)? I'm kinda under the impression most aftermarket options will pretty quickly get into the 2"-3" lift range...I really have no idea tho. 884 might be the most similar?
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