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r32 03-03-2018 01:24 PM

Thanks for this and everyone who contributed to all the other threads referenced here. So awesome! I'm in process of ordering all the parts now. Over $1000 worth.

I'm a bit slow and I was still a little confused on the hoses from Centric since GLW68 listed both rubber and stainless hoses from Centric, as well as two other hoses from ACDelco. I put together this little chart on Centric hoses to hopefully clarify things for anyone else confused on this.

Note, there are 6 brake line hoses required for the 4th gen 4Runner. However, when using Centric’s parts catalog search feature for StopTech Stainless Steel Lines, the search results reveal two types of hoses (007 and 507) for a total of four hoses. There are no stainless steel hoses available from StopTech (by Centric) for the rear uppers. Therefor, if you want to go with Centric hoses for the rear uppers, you will have to go with 150.44397 rubber hoses.

rubber hoses from Centric

2 Front - Centric 150.44362
1 Rear Left Lower - Centric 150.44408
1 Rear Right Lower - Centric 150.44407
2 Rear Upper - Centric 150.44397

stainless steel from StopTech (by Centric)

2 Front - Centric 950.44007
2 Rear - Centric 950.44507

Alternatively, you could order the G-Stop Brakeline Kit (part #21186) from Goodridge which comes with 6 stainless steel hoses. However, some have reported this kit to be more of a pain the ass to install.

Also note, when searching Amazon for brake lines from Centric, you must use the period [ . ] in the part number. Some people here list the parts without the period, but the search results on Amazon will come up empty.

https://i.imgur.com/6jMdXxx.jpg

r32 03-14-2018 01:30 PM

Would also like to add clarification on the Centric calipers.

Centric 141.44287 (front right)
Centric 141.44288 (front left)
Centric 141.44587 (rear right)
Centric 141.44588 (rear left)

vs.

Centric 142.44587 (rear right)
Centric 142.44588 (rear left)


141 series = Semi-Loaded Calipers
142 series = Posi Quiet Loaded calipers

CALIPERS - Centric Parts

142 series
  • Zinc Dichromate finish, or O.E. colored powder coating
  • New hardware
  • New piston
  • New boots and seals

On the Centric parts catalog website, I could not find 142 series 5th-gen calipers for the front. On Amazon, it shows about a $45 difference in cost between 141 and 142 series calipers.

DreamRun08 03-25-2018 04:46 PM

I have really bad uneven brakepad and rotor wear in the rear. Are tge calipers the problem or could it be something else?

JeffMerr 03-25-2018 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r32 (Post 2925077)
Alternatively, you could order the G-Stop Brakeline Kit (part #21186) from Goodridge which comes with 6 stainless steel hoses. However, some have reported this kit to be more of a pain the ass to install.

This was my plan, but to order Crown ss lines. Where are you seeing they are a pain to install? They shouldn't be any more difficult than a rubber brake line I would think...

tv4184 04-04-2018 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffMerr (Post 2942798)
This was my plan, but to order Crown ss lines. Where are you seeing they are a pain to install? They shouldn't be any more difficult than a rubber brake line I would think...

Someone on the forum did it already.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-ge...installed.html

Kind of sucks cuz I need the center lines but they’re sold as part of the kit. I have extended rear lines and the fronts are going to be from my stoptech kit.

JeffMerr 04-22-2018 04:44 PM

When you order Toyota oem calipers from the Toyota parts stores online, do you get a core return when you send your old calipers back? Or do they not take them? Rockauto shows the core return price, I'm not sure if these oem Toyota dealer websites do the same or not. Contemplating going full 5th gen brakes... Thanks

hunterD1 04-22-2018 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffMerr (Post 2965407)
When you order Toyota oem calipers from the Toyota parts stores online, do you get a core return when you send your old calipers back? Or do they not take them? Rockauto shows the core return price, I'm not sure if these oem Toyota dealer websites do the same or not. Contemplating going full 5th gen brakes... Thanks

nope no core return... but they do have reman calipers... so call them first before you order to confirm the part numbers

Ruthven13 04-24-2018 11:47 AM

Did anybody have a hard time finding the parts for the 5th gen swap? Wherever I look online all they seem to have in the way of calipers is rear. Nobody has the fronts. Rockauto, Amazon, etc. Going to need brakes soon so just wondering if anyone else had this issue. Also who offers the rotors painted if I decide to go that route?

rick1987 04-27-2018 04:15 PM

I did this swap not long ago, ordered everything from rockauto.

However. As a reliability upgrade, let's just say I need to replace the front brakes tomorrow.

Both sides have one frozen piston. These were centric calipers.

I ended up getting 2010 calipers today from advaced auto, they have a lifetime warranty. Also new rotors and pads.

Not sure how everyone else is making out but I expect to need to replace these in a year.

The current 5th gen brakes that are in it lasted 9 months.

TripleTS_T4R 05-16-2018 03:59 PM

Thanks for this post and write up another 5thGen rear brake job complete! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f4ffdc1ada.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a6cb32d99f.jpg


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atalarico 07-31-2018 04:44 PM

The previous owner of my 4th gen did a 5th gen brake swap, and I don't think it was more than 5-10k miles prior to me buying it from him. I'm getting a pretty loud squeal from the front these days. Any ideas on what I can check? For the record, I did my own Tundra Brake Upgrade on my 3rd gen, so I should be able to crack this, I just don't know where to start.

Thanks!

AuSeeker 07-31-2018 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atalarico (Post 3048329)
The previous owner of my 4th gen did a 5th gen brake swap, and I don't think it was more than 5-10k miles prior to me buying it from him. I'm getting a pretty loud squeal from the front these days. Any ideas on what I can check? For the record, I did my own Tundra Brake Upgrade on my 3rd gen, so I should be able to crack this, I just don't know where to start.

Thanks!

Check to be sure they put the "shims" on the back side of the pads.

WittDuncan 08-22-2018 11:38 AM

Cost of upgrade
 
I have had a shimmy in the brakes of my 4th gen recently (wobbling steering wheel, pulsing in the braking action) and know I need to replace some components. Unsure though if it's warped rotors or seizing calipers (or even both). Have considered just doing the 5th gen swap while I'm making the investment. How much does the 5th gen swap cost if quality (but not necessarily top of the line) components are used?

laufer 08-23-2018 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WittDuncan (Post 3083648)
I have had a shimmy in the brakes of my 4th gen recently (wobbling steering wheel, pulsing in the braking action) and know I need to replace some components. Unsure though if it's warped rotors or seizing calipers (or even both). Have considered just doing the 5th gen swap while I'm making the investment. How much does the 5th gen swap cost if quality (but not necessarily top of the line) components are used?

I was in a similar situation and did this upgrade in May. I paid $600 for parts (not including the optional steel brake line upgrade) and about $200 for labor. (When ordering from Advance, you should be able to find some 20-25% discount coupons.)

Centric rear rotors 120.44128 $77 CarID
Centric front rotors 120.44174 $103 CarID
OEM rear pads $50
OEM front pads $52
Advance Auto limited lifetime semi-loaded calipers rear 19-B2736/19-B2737 2 x $74 + refundable core charge
Advance Auto limited lifetime semi-loaded calipers front 19-6278/19-6279 2 x $83 + refundable core charge

Goodridge brake line (optional) $168 TireRack

(Advance lists those calipers as unloaded + all hardware (except pads), which I understand makes them semi-loaded.)

tv4184 09-19-2018 11:12 PM

More SS brake line info
 
I made a thread detailing the ss brake lines available and also detailing the replacement of the center lines.

Rear center line installation and other ss brake line info

Hopefully it helps add to the info database for future brake job installations.

I also did do the 5th gen rear caliper install on 4th gen rotors. I accidently bought 4th gen rotors before realizing I could fit 5th gen rear calipers on. The measurements on the intial thread doesn't show much difference between the two rotors. My parking brake actually works now. Don't know what was going on before with my old rotors. Maybe it's just a placebo effect.


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