04-25-2019, 10:06 PM
|
#91
|
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12
|
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12
|
Oh, and I don't have any issues with oversteer or pulling to either side. Maybe my lift is too mild to require the PCK.
|
|
 Reply With Quote
|
|
04-25-2019, 11:31 PM
|
#92
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Anaheim
Age: 45
Posts: 3,405
Real Name: Danny
|
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Anaheim
Age: 45
Posts: 3,405
Real Name: Danny
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by HomersCanyonero
I know these PCKs work on the GX470 = 4th Gen, but I'm only lifted like 1.5" in the rear using the air bag trick. Is there a minimum lift required before you really need the PCK? Just wondering...I'm usually on IH8MUD and someone referred me to this thread on the PCKs.
|
There's basically 3 settings. Stock, 1-1.5, and 2.5-3" roughly.
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
04-26-2019, 01:51 AM
|
#93
|
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12
|
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunner97
There's basically 3 settings. Stock, 1-1.5, and 2.5-3" roughly.
|
I'm surprised that rigs that are stock or up to 1.5" lift in the rear are having issues with the panhard. So, it's interesting that PCK supports those lower settings.
What specifically am I supposed to be fixing in the 1.5" rear lift? I don't have or feel any issues with steering.
Maybe my setup would help understand my non-issues:
Front:
TotalChaos UCA
New Toyota LCAs
Bilstein 6112s
Rear:
Air bags raised about 1.25" to 1.5" depending on what the original stock height was in the rear
OME 60004 shocks
Tires and wheels:
17x9 wheels with -12 offest
285/70R17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers E
Again, I'm just trying to understand if I need the PCK or not.
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
04-26-2019, 08:50 AM
|
#94
|
 |
Official Vendor
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
|
|
|
Official Vendor
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by HomersCanyonero
I'm surprised that rigs that are stock or up to 1.5" lift in the rear are having issues with the panhard. So, it's interesting that PCK supports those lower settings.
What specifically am I supposed to be fixing in the 1.5" rear lift? I don't have or feel any issues with steering.
Maybe my setup would help understand my non-issues:
Front:
TotalChaos UCA
New Toyota LCAs
Bilstein 6112s
Rear:
Air bags raised about 1.25" to 1.5" depending on what the original stock height was in the rear
OME 60004 shocks
Tires and wheels:
17x9 wheels with -12 offest
285/70R17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers E
Again, I'm just trying to understand if I need the PCK or not.
|
Take a photo of your panhard bar angle and let's have a look at it. 
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
04-26-2019, 10:13 AM
|
#95
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Anaheim
Age: 45
Posts: 3,405
Real Name: Danny
|
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Anaheim
Age: 45
Posts: 3,405
Real Name: Danny
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by HomersCanyonero
I'm surprised that rigs that are stock or up to 1.5" lift in the rear are having issues with the panhard. So, it's interesting that PCK supports those lower settings.
What specifically am I supposed to be fixing in the 1.5" rear lift? I don't have or feel any issues with steering.
Maybe my setup would help understand my non-issues:
Front:
TotalChaos UCA
New Toyota LCAs
Bilstein 6112s
Rear:
Air bags raised about 1.25" to 1.5" depending on what the original stock height was in the rear
OME 60004 shocks
Tires and wheels:
17x9 wheels with -12 offest
285/70R17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers E
Again, I'm just trying to understand if I need the PCK or not.
|
It's not that they necessarily have an issue stock, it's that the pck retains the stock mounting position which is why I added it into my post. Are you still running a rear sway bar? If you are then you likely don't notice the handling issues that come with your panhard being at the incorrect angle due to the lift.
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
04-26-2019, 10:23 AM
|
#96
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico
Posts: 2,052
|
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico
Posts: 2,052
|
3” lift, is this maybe why my truck tracks slightly left even after several alignments?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
04-26-2019, 10:46 AM
|
#97
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Kansas
Age: 28
Posts: 4,304
|
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Kansas
Age: 28
Posts: 4,304
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by HomersCanyonero
I'm surprised that rigs that are stock or up to 1.5" lift in the rear are having issues with the panhard. So, it's interesting that PCK supports those lower settings.
What specifically am I supposed to be fixing in the 1.5" rear lift? I don't have or feel any issues with steering.
Maybe my setup would help understand my non-issues:
Front:
TotalChaos UCA
New Toyota LCAs
Bilstein 6112s
Rear:
Air bags raised about 1.25" to 1.5" depending on what the original stock height was in the rear
OME 60004 shocks
Tires and wheels:
17x9 wheels with -12 offest
285/70R17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers E
Again, I'm just trying to understand if I need the PCK or not.
|
If your panhard is not level you will benefit from the correction kit.
The more angled it is the more benefit you get.
__________________
2005 4R Sport 4WD "The last of the V8s!" - Custom TIG'd SS Dual Exhaust - King 2.5" +2 LT. - ARB Front & Rear - 37's - Dana 60 - Build Thread
2005 Tundra 2WD Regular Cab V8 - Chopped Frame - Short Bed Swap
1977 Celica Liftback - LFX Swap - Build Thread
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
06-15-2019, 11:33 AM
|
#98
|
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12
|
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12
|
Yeah, I'm still running the sway bars in front and rear, so this might explain why I don't notice any issues with steering. Here's a picture of my rear panhard.
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
06-15-2019, 12:01 PM
|
#99
|
|
Official Vendor
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
|
|
|
Official Vendor
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
|
I think you’re fine as-is - when you add weight you’ll be close to level
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
06-17-2019, 02:50 AM
|
#100
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 198
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 198
|
Recently got my lift installed and am sitting at about 4" of lift in the rear empty. Rear bumper will be going on shortly and being loaded up for camping I imagine it'll settle 1" or so.
I haven't noticed any steering or control issues but perhaps just don't know that there are any. My question is if I still have my rear sway bar on (front is off) will I still benefit from this?
Here's a pic of my panhard bard. There is definitely an angle and I'm sure the kit will level it out nicely, just wondering if having the rear sway bar on makes it pointless.
Thanks
__________________
Whytey's 07 V8 Build Thread
2007 Toyota 4Runner Sport Edition V8, Elka 2.5 Suspension, Total Chaos UCA w/ Delta Uniball, Dobinsins C59-677V Rear Coils, Timbren Bumpstops, Prinsu Design Roof Rack, Baja Designs Squadron Sport Fogs, 285/70R17 BFG KO2, Blacked Out TE Rims, Spidertrax 1.25" Wheel Spacers, Satoshi Grill
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
06-17-2019, 08:22 AM
|
#101
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico
Posts: 2,052
|
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico
Posts: 2,052
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whytey
Recently got my lift installed and am sitting at about 4" of lift in the rear empty. Rear bumper will be going on shortly and being loaded up for camping I imagine it'll settle 1" or so.
I haven't noticed any steering or control issues but perhaps just don't know that there are any. My question is if I still have my rear sway bar on (front is off) will I still benefit from this?
Here's a pic of my panhard bard. There is definitely an angle and I'm sure the kit will level it out nicely, just wondering if having the rear sway bar on makes it pointless.
Thanks
|
I’m more worried about the rust on your lower control arms. Wire wheel and paint, your rig will thank you! Also, I really like the look of those black TE wheels, I almost did the same but figured it wouldn’t look as good on a white rig.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
06-17-2019, 12:19 PM
|
#102
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 37
Real Name: brian
|
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 37
Real Name: brian
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whytey
Recently got my lift installed and am sitting at about 4" of lift in the rear empty. Rear bumper will be going on shortly and being loaded up for camping I imagine it'll settle 1" or so.
I haven't noticed any steering or control issues but perhaps just don't know that there are any. My question is if I still have my rear sway bar on (front is off) will I still benefit from this?
Here's a pic of my panhard bard. There is definitely an angle and I'm sure the kit will level it out nicely, just wondering if having the rear sway bar on makes it pointless.
|
I only have a 3" lift, and did the panhard relocation. The change is subtle, but I hated the feeling of getting my rear-end thrown sideways with each bump at road speed. It is indeed noticeably improved now, but it's not a "night-and-day" change.
The panhard and swaybar have completely different jobs, and I'd suggest the swaybar's effect on tracking is insignificant. Whether the panhard relocation is worthwhile is debate-able (I'm glad I did it) but I'd say no, having a swaybar does not make it pointless. I run both with and without swaybars, and properly positioned panhard does its job regardless, especially since our rear sways are not especially stout anyway.
__________________
'04 v8 4WD Galactic Gray Mica
JBA UCA, OME 885/895, 295/70R17 MXT's, RCi skids, stainless lines, interior LEDs, and a handful of other minor tweaks, upgrades, fixes, or replacements
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
06-18-2019, 12:19 AM
|
#103
|
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12
|
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12
|
I just realized I can raise and lower my rear airbags, so I can check the angle of the rear panhard when I lower it 1.5” and raise it like 1.5”.
Does the pangard cause a lean to one side if the angle is bad?
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
06-18-2019, 08:32 AM
|
#104
|
|
Official Vendor
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
|
|
|
Official Vendor
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunner97
There's basically 3 settings. Stock, 1-1.5, and 2.5-3" roughly.
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
|
Hey, just saw this. It's actually Stock, 2.4" and 3.4"
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
|
06-18-2019, 08:33 AM
|
#105
|
|
Official Vendor
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
|
|
|
Official Vendor
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by HomersCanyonero
Does the pangard cause a lean to one side if the angle is bad?
|
No sir.
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
|
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|
Linear Mode
