01-19-2019, 10:50 AM
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LT Load Range E Tire on 4Runner
Hello,
I found a really good closeout special on these tires and purchased them last night.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...OWL&tab=Survey
Is there going to be a noticeable difference with the Load Range E?
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01-19-2019, 11:28 AM
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Overkill for a 4Runner. Great price for that tire. I have E-rated tires on my F250. You will notice a stiffer ride.
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01-19-2019, 11:44 AM
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Overkill for a 4Runner. Great price for that tire. I have E-rated tires on my F250. You will notice a stiffer ride.
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+1 I have them on me Dodge diesel. When I upgraded to E rated tires I could feel the ride become stiffer. My truck weighs almost 9k pounds. Unless you are rock crawling, you don't really need E rated. But if it is a great deal, then go ahead and give it a shot.
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01-19-2019, 11:48 AM
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I think I might like a stiffer tire. The tires I have on it currently have too much sidewall flex.
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01-19-2019, 12:16 PM
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I guess it will improve handling and cornering.
It would depend on suspension as well. I would not buy E load for the 4R but they do not feel punishing on road on my friend's GX470, which is heavier and has a more plush suspension.
When I had D-load KO2s on my H6 Outback, I loved the handling due to the stiff sidewalls and they also helped offset the 2.5" total lift (2+0.5 from tires) whereas my city tires, P--metric Geolander ATS were awful in comparison. I had upgraded brakes and never felt their weight when braking.
The ONE performance issue with tires made for much heavier vehicles is that if you run the street pressures tire makers recommend (email them and they will calculate it for you) when converting from P to LT, you end up with very high pressures and if the vehicle is empty, you may literally have too little contact patch.
The reason I never ran the KO2 in town, in addition to preserving them for trips, was that they rode terrible on an empty vehicle. If you air them down to the P metric pressures, you lose capacity and you may wear them faster as well though that depends. And they are still not that comfortable.
The other issue with D/E is that they force you to air down not just when needed, but also for any dirt road or the ride is unbearable.
And of course D/E tax the powertrain so that's another reason a GX470 may find them just fine whereas a V6 4R may feel sluggish.
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01-19-2019, 12:33 PM
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You'll have less potential issues with blowouts or piercings due to gravel roads (rough gravel roads) and other surfaces not considered usable to Subaru vehicles...
Excellent tires though...they are much heavier so you will have a small decrease in MPG...but one doesn't buy these rigs for efficiencies, right?!
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You'll have less potential issues with blowouts or piercings due to gravel roads (rough gravel roads) and other surfaces not considered usable to Subaru vehicles...
Excellent tires though...they are much heavier so you will have a small decrease in MPG...but one doesn't buy these rigs for efficiencies, right?!
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That's true on average.
But it is not necessarily true in every case. Unless you drive on the sidewalls or drive all the time in the desert, the E-load won't provide any strength advantage over a good P metric or C load tire. Lots of people lose tires and complain on the internet because they aired down too much unnecessarily.
Next, it depends on the tire. For tires known for punctures, like the Cooper Discoverer AT, going E makes more sense than for tires that do quite well in P like the Falken Wildpeak.
Considered suitable for Subaru is indeed the correct word choice . We have driven a few dozen 4wd trails not considered suitable and that's why I had the KO2s--I did not want to worry about tires at all.
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They have the same tire in P load (SL) for even cheaper. If you mainly drive on roads and some dirt roads every once in a while these might be more comfortable and you save some weight. The also have a 255/75/17 in P load if you want a slightly taller tire, although that one is a bit more expensive.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...3OWL&tab=Sizes
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...3OWL&tab=Specs
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01-19-2019, 03:34 PM
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There is only 1 tire left in stock.
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01-20-2019, 12:11 AM
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I run E's just fine, just adjust air pressure accordingly. I run 28 front and 26 rear.
Using The Chalk Method for Determining PSI | Interco Tire
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01-20-2019, 01:22 AM
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I have E-rated tires. You can find pretty much two completely opposing pieces
of advice about any tire-related subject on the internet, so good luck trying to come away confident in the information you get.
First, the ride is stiffer than P-rated, or non-E-rated LT, since the sidewall is stiffer, and therefore has less flex. The weight difference over P-rated is significant, and will really hurt MPG, but comparing E-rated to C-rated tire weight and you'll see the difference is minimal, because it's just a few extra sidewall plys.
You can air up much higher, which allows you to carry heavier loads, but the amount of weight you'd have to be carrying for that to matter over C-rated is beyond the capability of your vehicle.
You also can't air them down as much as tires with softer sidewall, because it can put too much stress on the less flexible sidewall to be bearing more of the weight.
I'd suggest starting with this: Understanding Tire Load Ratings
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01-22-2019, 10:42 PM
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If you are towing anything heavy with a V8 model, the load range E may be beneficial... since the V8 has a higher tow capacity.
As to the mention of the cooper tires by MAST4R, I agree that they puncture easily... not just the A/T. I'm running Discoverer HTP and they certainly seem to be slightly magnetic.
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01-23-2019, 08:46 AM
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I run E's on my 06, and in general I like them ... they are noticeably stiffer, but not bad if running proper air pressure. There are pros and cons to any tire. Is it worth the extra weight, lower MPG, etc? Truthfully, only you can decide.
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01-23-2019, 10:33 AM
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id suspect a good proportion of ppl would sacrifice some ride quality for assurance that they wont get a flat, especially those who offroad regularly.
while on the subject: i have brand new KUMHO at51 LT255/75/17/6ply/108R getting installed in the next
couple weeks. how come they advertise them as LT and 6ply with 108r? ideally id have something between LT load E and the soft P or whatever...is that kind of what i got with those or?
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Quote:
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I run E's on my 06, and in general I like them ... they are noticeably stiffer, but not bad if running proper air pressure. There are pros and cons to any tire. Is it worth the extra weight, lower MPG, etc? Truthfully, only you can decide.
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