02-12-2019, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by atalarico
Haha, that's good advice. There are people that grew up here that end up in ditches too, so you never know.
If you even have to think about finding a place to store tires and stuff just get a decent set of A/T tires (with the snowflake symbol) like Duratracs. You won't need chains, unless you plan on off-roading in the snow, in which case you'll need chains, a winch, and friends to dig you out. Ask me how I know.
If you have the space and know how to re-gear for 33's or something bigger, then by all means. I'll just say that while 3rd Gen on 32's wasn't the fastest up the highway passes, it certainly wasn't a slouch and I managed just fine for 8 or so years with it. I'm guessing a 4th Gen V6 with 33's or something would still be better than a 3rd Gen on 32's, so you'll probably be fine. You could always just lift and get the tires first and then see if you can live with it. Just remember to take it out of overdrive going uphill.
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So I found a place to store tires....
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02-12-2019, 08:49 PM
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So here is my thought... Let me know if this sounds good.
I am going to lift it this summer and then buy 285/70r17s Toyo Open Country A/T II with the Snowflake mountain symbol and get a set of chains. If I were to go there in the fall I would have the winter to try it out and if I needed to get a separate set of snow tires I could get them if I decided I needed them.
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Would I be able to go out and wheel in the snow with the Toyos and a good set of chains?
What chains are you guys running?
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02-14-2019, 06:41 PM
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So here is my thought... Let me know if this sounds good.
I am going to lift it this summer and then buy 285/70r17s Toyo Open Country A/T II with the Snowflake mountain symbol and get a set of chains. If I were to go there in the fall I would have the winter to try it out and if I needed to get a separate set of snow tires I could get them if I decided I needed them.
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Would I be able to go out and wheel in the snow with the Toyos and a good set of chains?
What chains are you guys running?
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AT's are a huge plus up here. I ran MT's for a while, but they get packed with snow and stay packed. You probably won't need chains UNLESS you plan to go up the mountain when there's powder. Unfortunately, they close a lot of the trails until the snow clears, but you may be able to tag along with the sidexside and snow mobile guys who run some trails (I did this last year and it was a hoot!) that are a little more packed down.
I don't have chains, I will just change my PSI depending on where I am wheeling that day. The city/state clears the local streets so fast, I doubt you'll need chains unless you run up to Estes or Breck in the winter time.
Best of luck with your studies! A few nurses on my team studied there at one point before going to UNC or CSU- I hear its a great school!
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02-15-2019, 12:29 PM
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Just to add a few things here.
- Tires are the most important mod you can make. The M+S rating is at the discretion of the manufacturer and doesn't mean a lot. On the other hand, the mountain/snowflake rating means the tires have passed a defined set of tests originally set up by the province of Quebec in Canada. So you want tires with that rating. I run load range C KO2 tires and have been very happy with them. Quiet on pavement, excellent on trails, and good on the snow and ice.
- Also with respect to tires, don't run them until they are bald, especially in winter. The traction laws in Colorado require at least 4/32 of tread, and more is better. If you have snowflake tires, 6/32+ tread, and 4wd, you won't need chains for highway travel in the mountains. I've driven to the ski resorts every winter for 45 years, and never put chains on once. These days, if the road gets so bad that they have to invoke actual chain requirements for 4wd vehicles, they'll close the road instead.
- Rust is not much of a problem in Colorado. While mag chloride and salt are used generously, these chemicals require moisture to cause rust, and Colorado doesn't have much of that. Once the snow is over, winter day humidity tends to drop to 20% or less, so everything dries up and what salt is on your car just sits there as a dry crust. Follow the suggestions to wash the underside once the sun comes out and you'll be fine. Neither of my vehicles has any significant undercarriage rust after 25 and 13 years respectively, all in Colorado.
- Best wishes on your test scores. The School of Mines is a great school, but challenging.
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02-15-2019, 10:53 PM
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I'm from Texas and went to school at Texas State in San Marcos. After graduating, i moved to Colorado for an internship and ended up in Golden for about nine months. I had a 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner with A/T, not snow rated. I put some sand in the bed and did fine during the winter. I even worked in Boulder and made the commute daily. Only challenge was getting up a hill to CSM apartments where i lived with a friend.
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02-16-2019, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CanuckinTX
So here is my thought... Let me know if this sounds good.
I am going to lift it this summer and then buy 285/70r17s Toyo Open Country A/T II with the Snowflake mountain symbol and get a set of chains. If I were to go there in the fall I would have the winter to try it out and if I needed to get a separate set of snow tires I could get them if I decided I needed them.
2 questions
Would I be able to go out and wheel in the snow with the Toyos and a good set of chains?
What chains are you guys running?
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i'm telling you the amount of time you are going to have to go 4wheeling in the snow while you are attending CSM....slim to none. Program is like 17-19 hours per semester and they are hard courses.
Last time I had to use chains in Colorado was 1982 when we had 4 ft of snow out in Arvada(near Golden) and that was on my '70 Buick GSX.
Of course having chains wont hurt anything as backup but your AT tires with snowflake rating will be perfectly fine.
Just wait until you spend some time putting on chains in a snowstorm and then readjusting them every 10 minutes...and then breaking them when you have to run on pavement for awhile. Colorado roads can go from snowpack, wet, dry, icy within miles or within a 1/4 depending on the road exposure and plowing. This is why they have to threaten truckers to carry chains and put them on... They are a gigantic pain in the @ss.
You'll also find that winter wheeling isnt for the faint hearted, is not something you should do alone and as someone else mentioned, many of these forest service roads are closed by gates. And quite a number of them dont open until June 15th/July 1st in the high country.
Dont overthink this.
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02-17-2019, 03:27 PM
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On the other hand, the mountain/snowflake rating means the tires have passed a defined set of tests originally set up by the province of Quebec in Canada. So you want tires with that rating.
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It is the ASTM F 1805 tire test, and the testing measures a tire's acceleration traction on medium-packed snow only. Braking and turning on snow, along with ice traction are not components of the test. They perform this test in a straight line using a 4WD vehicle.
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10-29-2019, 07:42 PM
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02-23-2021, 07:49 AM
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I moved to Colorado, and I really like it here. I like the quietness, the infrastructure, and the smaller flow of people. But he still came to me very spontaneously. If you are a person who loves peace, then this is a very good place. I thought I could move all my stuff out of the old house with my Toyota Tundra, but he didn't get it, so I turned to a company that specializes in moved. I really liked the services of this company, and I can say with confidence that they care about their customers and that security is for them first. The guys did it very quickly and efficiently. Thank you to removalist manly.
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02-23-2021, 09:16 AM
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I moved to Colorado, and I really like it here. I like the quietness, the infrastructure, and the smaller flow of people. But he still came to me very spontaneously. If you are a person who loves peace, then this is a very good place. I thought I could move all my stuff out of the old house with my Toyota Tundra, but he didn't get it, so I turned to a company that specializes in moved. I really liked the services of this company, and I can say with confidence that they care about their customers and that security is for them first. The guys did it very quickly and efficiently. Thank you to removalist manly.
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Since the OP posted this a couple o' years ago, you should send him a nice graduation card...
Y'know, somethin' with a picture of a mine on the front of it would be fitting.
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