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Old 01-15-2021, 01:27 PM #16
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I'm wondering if this would solve my issue as well, my symptoms are the same except once in awhile after the jolt I experience a weird loss of throttle, my rpms can go up at a normal rate as i push the gas down, but the car accelerates very slowly, and I have to turn it off and on to fix the issue. Did you experience anything similar?
Yes, I had this happen numerous times. I was baffled.

I also had the problem when driving quickly, coming to a dead-slow speed (less than 10km/hr), the truck would fall out of gear... then if I made the mistake of trying to accelerate again, the trans would SMASH into first gear and snap everyone's heads back and peel the tires.

There were other funny things it did... I got fed up and bought a new-to-me transmission. Thankfully, they're reasonably priced, I got mine for ~$750CAD, and there was a nice selection of low-mile units locally.

I posted a more detailed write up about the issues and why they happened. Sorry, but I don't remember the specifics right now... nor how to narcissistically search for my own posts. I can find the memory bank or the post if you do need it.

Best luck, hope you're well.
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Can get a sealed Lexus rear drive shaft.
To stop that "bump" feel for those that dont seem to want to use grease.
Was replacement rear upper control arms too.
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Greasing the slip-yokes gets so many different opinions across different forums and even within them for some reason. There seems to be no real consensus on how much grease to pump into the slip yokes. Some say pump till you see movement (I've done this) others say to only pump around 5 pumps to avoid locking them up and creating damage to the transfer case/rear diffs upon hitting bumps etc.
The first time I greased mine was when I bought the car with 65K miles.
I probably put 25 pumps in before I saw the slip yoke move. As I drove around over the next several hundred miles, the slip yoke moved as expected and pumped a significant amount of grease back out which flung all over the place under the vehicle. Now I only put like 5 pumps in every 20K or so.
So in my opinion you can pump in as much as you want but it will pump the grease back out until it hits the correct level, and fling all over the place.
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Grease all the zerks. Maybe change the transmission fluid too.


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The first time I greased mine was when I bought the car with 65K miles.
I probably put 25 pumps in before I saw the slip yoke move. As I drove around over the next several hundred miles, the slip yoke moved as expected and pumped a significant amount of grease back out which flung all over the place under the vehicle. Now I only put like 5 pumps in every 20K or so.
So in my opinion you can pump in as much as you want but it will pump the grease back out until it hits the correct level, and fling all over the place.


So anytime I've gotten a new to me Toyota 4x4 I would pump the slip yokes until they moved. Then I started hearing horror stories of the yoke becoming locked from too much grease and damaging the transfer case or diff. I figured even if it's a slight chance I don't want to risk it. I'm more of a 5ish pump guy now.
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I support the transmission fluid idea. I haven't done mine yet., Maybe when I hit 200k this spring.

I noticed that I can feel it about to lurch or bump as I come to a stop, or feel like it'll click as I start from the stop, but if I put it in neutral it'll bump without pulling the car. Sorta indicating that the transmission wants to stay in 2nd gear instead of going down to 1st.
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To grease the driveshaft slip yoke on my '04 I just pump it 25 times or more with my grease gun to make sure it gets the entire internal spline. Then I remove the zerk fitting to let the excess grease ooze out and drive up & down my driveway once or twice. This will prevent the yoke from locking up from too much grease.
Replace zerk fitting after that.

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Greasing the drive train solved every "jolt" issue I had
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As the owner of the thread has posted the solution to this jerk is low/dirty tranny fluid. I had greased the driveline, and it made absolutely no difference. There is lots of debate on how to grease the driveline properly but I feel like even if you don’t grease it properly you would still feel some slight improvement. So if you grease it and there’s no change, chances are that it’s not a driveshaft issue. Another way to tell is by trying to come to a hard stop in neutral, if it’s driveshaft related you will get the clunk, but you won’t have the clunk in neutral if it’s tranny related. So then I was trying to recreate this issue I had with the jerk and it would get so severe sometimes that I would lose throttle after the jerk. I had recreated it to the point I lost throttle again and checked the code reader I had plugged in and it popped out a p2714 code as a stored code. I ran the code through prodemand and all the fixes were either low/dirty tranny fluid or bad solenoid. I figured since it was intermittent its most likely the fluid level since it probably loses fluid pressure on hard stops as the fluid gets pushed around too much. So I just drained and filled the tranny 4-5 times and made sure the level was good by sitting it level and getting it up to temp and checking the overflow plug while the truck is running. It fixed my issue entirely and also the truck just seems to drive much smoother.
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As the owner of the thread has posted the solution to this jerk is low/dirty tranny fluid. I had greased the driveline, and it made absolutely no difference. There is lots of debate on how to grease the driveline properly but I feel like even if you don’t grease it properly you would still feel some slight improvement. So if you grease it and there’s no change, chances are that it’s not a driveshaft issue. Another way to tell is by trying to come to a hard stop in neutral, if it’s driveshaft related you will get the clunk, but you won’t have the clunk in neutral if it’s tranny related. So then I was trying to recreate this issue I had with the jerk and it would get so severe sometimes that I would lose throttle after the jerk. I had recreated it to the point I lost throttle again and checked the code reader I had plugged in and it popped out a p2714 code as a stored code. I ran the code through prodemand and all the fixes were either low/dirty tranny fluid or bad solenoid. I figured since it was intermittent its most likely the fluid level since it probably loses fluid pressure on hard stops as the fluid gets pushed around too much. So I just drained and filled the tranny 4-5 times and made sure the level was good by sitting it level and getting it up to temp and checking the overflow plug while the truck is running. It fixed my issue entirely and also the truck just seems to drive much smoother.
It's an intermittent issue right now. It'll get worse over time.

I found the post I made here:
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3525458-post10.html

from this thread:
Transmission Replacement

Here's what you need to fix:
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A common complaint is the trans-mission
falling out of gear when com-ing
to a stop, sometimes so harsh that
it feels like someone has rear-ended
you. This happens because the trans has
fallen out of gear due to low pressure,
caused by a faulty SLT pressure sole-noid.
The ECM then ramps up the pres-sure
to max and it slams back into gear.
Replace the SLT solenoid is the fix for
this concern.
By the time I had found this article, I figured my trans was long gone because it did so many other strange things... I didn't think it was worth throwing more solenoids at (I had already replaced two others). I got a whole new trans instead.

If your problem is still intermittent, it may still be okay.
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It's an intermittent issue right now. It'll get worse over time.

I found the post I made here:
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3525458-post10.html

from this thread:
Transmission Replacement

Here's what you need to fix:


By the time I had found this article, I figured my trans was long gone because it did so many other strange things... I didn't think it was worth throwing more solenoids at (I had already replaced two others). I got a whole new trans instead.

If your problem is still intermittent, it may still be okay.
Well I can see what you’re saying the low pressure can be caused by a bad solenoid, I agree with that but also low pressure can be caused by low fluid since there just isn’t enough fluid to build pressure, I’m fairly certain it was just low fluid since the issue went away entirely, and overall with just regular driving I can feel that the transmission doesn’t struggle to build pressure during hard acceleration and such. The truck has 360k kms and I got it less than a year ago and haven’t touched the tranny, and who knows if the previous owner touched it either so it’s very likely that it was just time for some fresh shifty juice. Also I have to say I’m surprised how affordable it was to get a new tranny put in, I assumed if it was actually a bad tranny it would be so hard to find a used one. Especially with how hard it is to find body panels used for these things. It took me a few months to find a replacement trunk for example. Anyways that’s neither here nor there, thank you for your insight my friend.
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