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Old 06-18-2019, 05:47 PM #1
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Anyone run different springs with 6112’s?

Has anyone ran different springs with their 6112’s? The springs they come with are 14in and I have a set of 16in Toytec’s that would fit the set up. Has anyone run 16in springs with them? Would the 2in spring be to much? Any experience or info would help. Thanks
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Wouldn't that give you zero down travel?
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Wouldn't that give you zero down travel?
That depends entirely on spring rate. If it has the same spring rate as the factory springs then you will get 4" more lift at the same preload so yeah, no downtravel.

14" to 16" doesn't change anything. What are the spring rates? Why are you wanting to upgrade?
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That depends entirely on spring rate. If it has the same spring rate as the factory springs then you will get 4" more lift at the same preload so yeah, no downtravel.

14" to 16" doesn't change anything. What are the spring rates? Why are you wanting to upgrade?
Only reason would be is to run a full 3in up front. I believe they’re both rated at 600#.
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Only reason would be is to run a full 3in up front. I believe they’re both rated at 600#.
That would give you 6" of lift and blow out your shocks if you actually used them hard

You might get 1/4 mile out of your CV axles.

You would murder your wheel speed sensor wires and brake lines

Get a top plate spacer

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That would give you 6" of lift and blow out your shocks if you actually used them hard

You might get 1/4 mile out of your CV axles.

You would murder your wheel speed sensor wires and brake lines

Get a top plate spacer
Your front lift is limited by the shock length, or the upper control arm contacting the coil or running out of joint movement. So no chance of hurting your wires or brake lines. Since these are the limits, when you lift a tire driving offroad your front end won't explode.

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Only reason would be is to run a full 3in up front. I believe they’re both rated at 600#.
If I'm thinking correctly, since they are both 600#/inch springs they would still need preloaded the same amount to obtain the same amount of lift. Just the longer spring will keep the preload collar up higher so no real difference.

Unless you are running out of thread room below the preload collar and need a taller spring?
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That depends entirely on spring rate. If it has the same spring rate as the factory springs then you will get 4" more lift at the same preload so yeah, no downtravel.

14" to 16" doesn't change anything. What are the spring rates? Why are you wanting to upgrade?
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That would give you 6" of lift and blow out your shocks if you actually used them hard

You might get 1/4 mile out of your CV axles.

You would murder your wheel speed sensor wires and brake lines

Get a top plate spacer
That’s what I figured, I’ll end up with top plate spacers. I was just thinking of the 16in springs on the lowest setting but it’s not worth the risk
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That’s what I figured, I’ll end up with top plate spacers. I was just thinking of the 16in springs on the lowest setting but it’s not worth the risk

I read 6112 and thought that was the code for the ome shocks, my bad. I don't have bilsteins.
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Your front lift is limited by the shock length, or the upper control arm contacting the coil or running out of joint movement. So no chance of hurting your wires or brake lines. Since these are the limits, when you lift a tire driving offroad your front end won't explode.



If I'm thinking correctly, since they are both 600#/inch springs they would still need preloaded the same amount to obtain the same amount of lift. Just the longer spring will keep the preload collar up higher so no real difference.

Unless you are running out of thread room below the preload collar and need a taller spring?

Yep, you'd have a bad time if you could actually achieve 6" lift. I thought op wear referencing ome not bilsteins. Either way you're right you wouldn't destroy everything.
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I did some more digging and it looks like 16" coils are for long travel coilovers, the ones for +2 or +3.5" wide kits. So they won't fit standard length control arms/coilovers. 14" is the max for standard width.

King 16" Coil Spring Pairs for 2.5" Coilovers
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I haven’t tried anything other than the included springs.

6112 has height adjustment using the spring perch. Wouldn’t the original spring with a 2” perch setting be the same as running a 2” taller spring with the spring perch in the 0 lift height position?

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Anyone run different springs with 6112’s?

I put king 650# 14” on my 6112’s and had a 1/2” top spacer. I was getting around 3.5” lift and my cv’s we’re good even doing difficult trails. I do have the diff drop. I ended up putting icon extended travel 2.5’s on and don’t really notice a difference in off road capability. It does ride a little nicer on the highway though.



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