User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 07-11-2019, 08:51 PM #1
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
Cant figure out my steering wheel shaking

Recently I started getting small steering wheel shakes with normal highway driving, typically around 55-65mph. Not a HUGE deal. But, if I drive ~20 mins and get off an exit ramp, the steering wheel shakes vigorously when I apply brakes.

Replace rotors you say? Did that yesterday. Wheels need balancing? Rotated and balanced the wheels/tires today. While the symptoms arent as bad as they were before this, I still get vigorous steering wheel shakes when I apply brakes.

I did the 5th gen upgrade ~2 years ago. Before I did that, I remember similar symptoms.

I guess my question is, does this sound like a seized caliper or could this just be 15 year old suspension/bushings/bearings?

Is there a way to tell which caliper is seized? Do I need to replace them at the same time?

Thanks in advance.
vastano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 09:12 PM #2
DEF4Runner's Avatar
DEF4Runner DEF4Runner is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: O'Fallon, IL
Posts: 213
DEF4Runner is on a distinguished road
MY GARAGE
DEF4Runner DEF4Runner is offline
Member
DEF4Runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: O'Fallon, IL
Posts: 213
DEF4Runner is on a distinguished road
MY GARAGE
It might very well be the calipers seize. I too recently had a small highway steering wheel vibration. I lived with it for a while and because the pads were going, I went to replace the rotors and pads. Found one of the caliper pistons on the inboard pass side was completely seized and the same inboard piston on the driver's side was starting to seize. Replaced the calipers and viola! Rides smooth as glass now.

Thank you NAPA Lifetime warranty! ;)

Good luck!

Quote:
Originally Posted by vastano View Post
Recently I started getting small steering wheel shakes with normal highway driving, typically around 55-65mph. Not a HUGE deal. But, if I drive ~20 mins and get off an exit ramp, the steering wheel shakes vigorously when I apply brakes.

Replace rotors you say? Did that yesterday. Wheels need balancing? Rotated and balanced the wheels/tires today. While the symptoms arent as bad as they were before this, I still get vigorous steering wheel shakes when I apply brakes.

I did the 5th gen upgrade ~2 years ago. Before I did that, I remember similar symptoms.

I guess my question is, does this sound like a seized caliper or could this just be 15 year old suspension/bushings/bearings?

Is there a way to tell which caliper is seized? Do I need to replace them at the same time?

Thanks in advance.
__________________
2008 V6 SR5 4X4 @ 165K: 265/70/17 Falken Wildpeak | SPC Racing UCAs | Method NV wheels | Wheeler's T1/T12 springs| Bilstein 5100
DEF4Runner is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 06:46 AM #3
Hunter.Cribb's Avatar
Hunter.Cribb Hunter.Cribb is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Wilmington, nc
Posts: 28
Hunter.Cribb is on a distinguished road
Hunter.Cribb Hunter.Cribb is offline
Junior Member
Hunter.Cribb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Wilmington, nc
Posts: 28
Hunter.Cribb is on a distinguished road
Cant figure out my steering wheel shaking

Mine does the same thing right around 65-70. It just flutters. I got brand new tires and all new front suspension. I guess I should look into the brakes.


2006 Toyota 4Runner Limited 4wd
Hunter.Cribb is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 09:05 AM #4
JVC8790's Avatar
JVC8790 JVC8790 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 345
Real Name: John
JVC8790 will become famous soon enough JVC8790 will become famous soon enough
JVC8790 JVC8790 is offline
Member
JVC8790's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 345
Real Name: John
JVC8790 will become famous soon enough JVC8790 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter.Cribb View Post
Mine does the same thing right around 65-70. It just flutters. I got brand new tires and all new front suspension. I guess I should look into the brakes.


2006 Toyota 4Runner Limited 4wd
Ditto, mine has a light vibration, but I also recently noticed a pull to the right on braking, so I'm going with a stuck caliper.
__________________
2004 4Runner V8 Limited - TRD Exhaust, LED Interior Swap, Pioneer HU, Tacoma TRD Front Suspension, FJ Rears w/Dobinson 15mm Lean Spacer, 10" + 32" Light Bars, Prius Shift Knob, 275/65R18 Falken Wildpeak, 18x9 Level 8 MK6 Et0, GOBI Ladder Build Thread
1998 Volvo S70 T5 - Custom Airlift Suspension, Mercedes Alphard Wheels, Brada Seats, Engine Bolt Ons - StanceWorks Build Thread
2010 Subaru Forester 2.5X - Wifes Car
JVC8790 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 10:02 AM #5
iamBazzy iamBazzy is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 25
iamBazzy is on a distinguished road
iamBazzy iamBazzy is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 25
iamBazzy is on a distinguished road
I wasn't chasing the shake, rather upgrading everything since I was adding a lift. Replaced inner and outer tie rods, entire braking system, new wheels and tires, new upper control arms, sway-bar bushings, UCA bushings.. Still noticed a wobble. Went to have it aligned recently and the tech alerted me to my lower control arm bushings having some signs of dry rot on the inside of the bushing. Waiting on new ones to arrive, hopefully that's the issue because I don't know what else there could be
iamBazzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 12:44 PM #6
jrm's Avatar
jrm jrm is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 1,506
jrm is on a distinguished road
jrm jrm is offline
Senior Member
jrm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 1,506
jrm is on a distinguished road
It sounds like the tires were balanced using the hole in the center of the wheel and not the lugs surrounding the center. The way the OE wheels are manufactured, the center of the wheel is determined by the lug holes of the wheel and NOT the hole in the center of the wheel. If your tire store uses the center hole as the center of the wheel they can get close but they will never get it right. Sure theyll try to force balance the tires or blame your oversized tires and/or lift for them not being able to get the tire balanced but if they dont use the Haweka adapter metioned in the toyota TSB-#SU002-96 theyll never get them balanced the way its supposed to be...
jrm is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 09:44 PM #7
Chewbaccam Chewbaccam is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 23
Chewbaccam is on a distinguished road
Chewbaccam Chewbaccam is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 23
Chewbaccam is on a distinguished road
I had a very similar wobble at the same speeds, it would also go away if you went past 60mph. I recently got my brakes replaced- pads, rotors, calipers. That reduced the wobble some but I didn't notice it completely going away until I got new tires (old ones were chopped so im sure it didn't help) and new upper control arms. After that, perfectly smooth. So I can't say it was one single thing, but it was a combo of items for me.
Chewbaccam is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 09:51 AM #8
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewbaccam View Post
I had a very similar wobble at the same speeds, it would also go away if you went past 60mph. I recently got my brakes replaced- pads, rotors, calipers. That reduced the wobble some but I didn't notice it completely going away until I got new tires (old ones were chopped so im sure it didn't help) and new upper control arms. After that, perfectly smooth. So I can't say it was one single thing, but it was a combo of items for me.
This is interesting. I'm going to look into revamping my controls arms and any other wear parts that need to be replaced at 210k...

Whats odd with the whole situation is the braking was fine yesterday, no added shakes when i applied the brakes, no matter the speed. But once I get above 50mph, the shake appears.
vastano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 07:24 PM #9
08TxRunner 08TxRunner is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 60
08TxRunner is on a distinguished road
08TxRunner 08TxRunner is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 60
08TxRunner is on a distinguished road
If the only time you get steering wheel shake is when you're braking, it's a problem with the brakes. Tire/rim balance problems are there regardless of whether the brake pedal is applied. I chased what I thought was balance problems for quite a while and it turned out to be a stuck caliper piston that was dragging and warping the rotor. I recently changed out the rotors, calipers, and pads and it's been great.

Last edited by 08TxRunner; 07-13-2019 at 07:29 PM.
08TxRunner is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-25-2019, 10:02 AM #10
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
Update to my issue.

The original axles were well past due for a change, the inner boots have been torn since I bought the Runner 3 years ago.

I bought the Carquest axles from Advance Auto and installed them last night. Before I changed them out, i grabbed both axles to see if there was play. I could shake both of them but the passenger side seemed very loose.

During the removal, both axles essentially fell out, leaving the 'tulip' in the transfer case.

Overall this remove/replace procedure on the axles is pretty simple.

I'm happy to report that 90% of my steering wheel shake is gone. I'll be doing another trans fluid exchange soon and hopefully that will take care of the rest of the shaking. I'm thinking the axles were so bad that they were amplifying the little bit of shake that's there now.
vastano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-25-2019, 10:48 AM #11
firebirdguy firebirdguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: iowa
Posts: 209
firebirdguy will become famous soon enough
firebirdguy firebirdguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: iowa
Posts: 209
firebirdguy will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by vastano View Post
Update to my issue.

The original axles were well past due for a change, the inner boots have been torn since I bought the Runner 3 years ago.

I bought the Carquest axles from Advance Auto and installed them last night. Before I changed them out, i grabbed both axles to see if there was play. I could shake both of them but the passenger side seemed very loose.

During the removal, both axles essentially fell out, leaving the 'tulip' in the transfer case.

Overall this remove/replace procedure on the axles is pretty simple.

I'm happy to report that 90% of my steering wheel shake is gone. I'll be doing another trans fluid exchange soon and hopefully that will take care of the rest of the shaking. I'm thinking the axles were so bad that they were amplifying the little bit of shake that's there now.
how will a trans fluid exchange take care of shaking ??
firebirdguy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-25-2019, 11:33 AM #12
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
I believe I have the beginning of the 'rumble strip' issue.. Seems the consensus on a fix is to add shudder-fixx or do a fluid exchange.
vastano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-25-2019, 02:14 PM #13
firebirdguy firebirdguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: iowa
Posts: 209
firebirdguy will become famous soon enough
firebirdguy firebirdguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: iowa
Posts: 209
firebirdguy will become famous soon enough
oh, ok. the rumble strip trans issue has noting to do with steering wheel shake related to suspension, brake or tire issues.

if you have the trans vibration, a trans fluid exchange &/or shudder fix may help, just wanted to clarify that steering wheel shake is unrelated to that.

best of luck figuring out both issues.
firebirdguy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-12-2019, 12:35 PM #14
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
vastano vastano is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 110
vastano is on a distinguished road
wanted to post another update.

I figured out my 2 year old 5th gen Centric front calipers were seized. I replaced them and that go rid of alot of the shakes.

Its to the point now where the vibrations are tolerable, although I have suspicions that the rears may be seized too. Ill check when I install my speed bleeders Wednesday.
vastano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-12-2019, 06:21 PM #15
Hunter.Cribb's Avatar
Hunter.Cribb Hunter.Cribb is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Wilmington, nc
Posts: 28
Hunter.Cribb is on a distinguished road
Hunter.Cribb Hunter.Cribb is offline
Junior Member
Hunter.Cribb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Wilmington, nc
Posts: 28
Hunter.Cribb is on a distinguished road
My 4Runner began pulling to the right now when I hit the brakes. So Iím taking it to the shop tomorrow. Maybe a caliper has been causing my steering wheel shake this whole time.
Hunter.Cribb is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
replace , seized , shakes , steering , wheel

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Steering Wheel Shaking Briguy420 4th Gen T4Rs 2 12-02-2014 06:56 PM
Shaking steering wheel Rollingalong 3rd gen T4Rs 6 06-14-2013 07:12 PM
Steering wheel shaking hawaii50 New Members 6 08-07-2012 07:02 PM
Steering Wheel Shaking A10MileHusker 4th Gen T4Rs 15 10-28-2010 11:15 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:08 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2019


Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.