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Apple Carplay and install recommendations for 04 Limited

Just got back from a business trip where I drove around a rental vehicle with an Apple compatible stereo receiver. After I got back and jumped into my 04 Limited with JBL I need a new deck.

Questions: Any recommendations and advice on installing a new Carplay compatible car stereos? I currently have the OEM JBL receiver with a Fosgate subwoofer mod.

I found this Alpine on Crutchfield (open-box) for $265. Alpine ILX-W650 Digital multimedia receiver (does not play CDs) at Crutchfield

And any tips and tricks on installation.
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I have the same one, but for android auto compatibility. It's alright. I had a Sony xav previously and I like that one better. It think its cheaper too, but for some reason the android auto one is a lot more expensive so I bought the alpine.

Install is straight forward. You can get everything from crutchfield, they will even send you instructions and for an extra $20 they wire everything for you so it's just plug and play.
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I have the same one, but for android auto compatibility. It's alright. I had a Sony xav previously and I like that one better. It think its cheaper too, but for some reason the android auto one is a lot more expensive so I bought the alpine.

Install is straight forward. You can get everything from crutchfield, they will even send you instructions and for an extra $20 they wire everything for you so it's just plug and play.
Thanks for the reply. Why did you like the Sony better?
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Thanks for the reply. Why did you like the Sony better?
I canít answer for him as I have no experience with the other stereo, but I installed the XAV-AX1000 (from Crutchfield) in my daughterís Camry awhile back, and its an awesome unit at a very good price. I will be adding one to my 4Runner as well at some point. It just hasnít been a huge priority since I have a really nice Pioneer single DIN with Bluetooth currently which works perfectly for hands free calling, iTunes streaming, etc. The main reason to upgrade for me is to have the screen for backup camera, and having CarPlay is just icing on the cake. The only downside to the 1000 is that it only has a front USB port, so you canít do a hidden, remote port for the phone hookup, like you could with the AX100, but the processing speed in the 1000 is much faster, so I guess it depends whatís more important to the individual. Not sure if you like a physical knob for volume, or not, but the AX1000 has that which a lot of others do not. I personally like that feature.
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$20 and they wire everything? steering wheel controls included?
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I have been thinking about getting that Sony XAV AX1000. I plan to also purchase the kit on Crutchfield that lets you continue to use the factory JBL amp and steering wheel controls. My biggest concern is sound quality. I think the system sounds good for being something from the factory in 2005 and do not want to lose any sound quality. I installed a Chinese Joying android unit before and the sound quality sucked so I took it out and returned it. Do either of you know how it will sound with the new unit?
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Thanks for the reply. Why did you like the Sony better?
I just liked the layout better. It was a bit more colorful, and you can also change the background color. The alpine also has a parking brake sensor, so you need to have the parking brake applied to change some of the settings.
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$20 and they wire everything? steering wheel controls included?
Yes, I think it was like 25ish. You have to buy the the steering wheel kit but yes they wired that too.
I usually do the wiring my self but I was lazy and had them do it. They only messed up on one wire. Just make sure to double check.
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Yes, I think it was like 25ish. You have to buy the the steering wheel kit but yes they wired that too.
I usually do the wiring my self but I was lazy and had them do it. They only messed up on one wire. Just make sure to double check.
That's correct. I called them today and they charge $25 to prewire the receiver and steering wheel adapter.
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I'd go with Sony too, I worked for Crutchfield for 10 years (they're based here in VA) and while I love Kenwood and Alpine the Sony units always performed better when using Bluetooth. They would connect much faster and had fewer problems pairing. That being said if you're always going to plug in for Carplay then the Bluetooth performance is somewhat moot. I had the previous model Sony the AX100 in my 3rd gen and it was great.
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I installed the Sony XAV 1000 last winter as it was on sale for Black Friday or something and haven’t been thoroughly impressed. Pretty limited settings menu, can’t change background wallpaper, Bluetooth is crappy sometimes on initial startup of the vehicle. Also as mentioned it only has a single front USB port. The older XAV100 had a rear port, would’ve made a cleaner install.

I knew “most” of this at purchase and have been pleased enough otherwise. My 4Runner is also technically my wife’s vehicle so I don’t make use of the headunit as often as my truck.

Also I’m young but not that young so every now and then I’ll grab a CD to throw in and remember it’s a media unit only lol.

I will say the wired Apple CarPlay is great. I’d prefer a newer unit that supports wireless Apple CarPlay though.

Overall wouldn’t buy it again.
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I'd go with Sony too, I worked for Crutchfield for 10 years (they're based here in VA) and while I love Kenwood and Alpine the Sony units always performed better when using Bluetooth. They would connect much faster and had fewer problems pairing. That being said if you're always going to plug in for Carplay then the Bluetooth performance is somewhat moot. I had the previous model Sony the AX100 in my 3rd gen and it was great.
You guys are killing me. I was about to pull the trigger on the Alpine because of the USB in the back. I'm not worried about the background and I have a Proclip mount that connects to my existing radio, so i really don't use Bluetooth.

I'm also considering the Sony XAV-AX5000, but it's an extra $50.

I've gotta be careful. I've already done the subwoofer mod, next will be the receiver, and if I'm not careful I'll be buying another Fosgate amp and new speakers.
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99 4Runner 3.4 with this noise while accelerating at about 2000rpm.

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Ironleague - you should post this question on the 3rd Gen Forum. You will probably get more responses.
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Just got back from a business trip where I drove around a rental vehicle with an Apple compatible stereo receiver. After I got back and jumped into my 04 Limited with JBL I need a new deck.

Questions: Any recommendations and advice on installing a new Carplay compatible car stereos? I currently have the OEM JBL receiver with a Fosgate subwoofer mod.

I found this Alpine on Crutchfield (open-box) for $265. Alpine ILX-W650 Digital multimedia receiver (does not play CDs) at Crutchfield

And any tips and tricks on installation.
I bought the exact same head unit (even at the open-box price). I expect it in the next day or two and am hoping to install it (and a couple of dash bulbs) this weekend. I went back and forth bt the ILX-W650 and the Sony XAV-AX1000. Decided to go with the bigger capacitive screen (also cheaper than the Sony AX5000 that has a comparable screen).
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