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Old 09-14-2019, 07:54 PM #1
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Bilstein 5100's vs Eibach Pro-Truck ride quality

I've read the other posts and sticky threads on all the different lift options out there, and I have narrowed it down to these two for my '06 2wd V6. The Eibach Pro-Truck lift kit which claims 2.75"F/1"R lift and includes shocks and springs for all 4 corners. The Billy 5100 setup which also claims up to 2.75"F and 1.75"R lift with the B12 springs for the rear, and using stock front coils...pairing this with Toytec or Eibach or OME front springs would allow the shocks to stay set at 0 or .75", which if I understand correctly may provide a better ride. The amount of lift on both of these is fine for what I am looking for.
I drive mainly highway (though I4 is like a trail being under construction forever) and occasionally mild trails or beach/dirt roads...no serious offroading or rocks at all. Who has either of these setups and can comment on the daily driving comfort, specifically the Eibach as I haven't found too many on here that have it or have commented on the ride?
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I’ve got this kit
TTAFCS-HA-0309 - Toytec/Bilstein coilovers for 03-09 4Runner
With no adjustments made (ie c-clip is where it was set from toytec) paired with jba UCA’s and 5100/superflex HD in the rear
I’ve got no complaints about ride quality and knowing what I4 is like, I would have no issues or concerns driving it daily ( as far as ride quality/handling goes... there’s plenty of concerns about driving it lol)
Never experienced any of the front to back bouncing from going over multiple miles of uneven roadway or anything along those lines
I’m sure the ride could be better
For example some speed bumps are slightly jarring and occasionally a canned drink in my cup holder will spill going over a speed bump or pulling into/out of a harsh driveway
Bigger bumps like train tracks are no problem at all and actually fun for the most part
I’ve jumped a curb a few times at about 20 mph to avoid a collision and it may have thrown my alignment out a little bit but it didn’t “hurt”
Hope this helps
Let me know if you have any other questions
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I don't know anything about the Eibach kit. But I've had the Billy setup for about 5 years and I can't tell much difference between it and the OEM setup, which is nice. Not harsh at all, maybe just a little more controlled.
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I’ve got this kit
TTAFCS-HA-0309 - Toytec/Bilstein coilovers for 03-09 4Runner
With no adjustments made (ie c-clip is where it was set from toytec) paired with jba UCA’s and 5100/superflex HD in the rear
I’ve got no complaints about ride quality and knowing what I4 is like, I would have no issues or concerns driving it daily ( as far as ride quality/handling goes... there’s plenty of concerns about driving it lol)
Never experienced any of the front to back bouncing from going over multiple miles of uneven roadway or anything along those lines
I’m sure the ride could be better
For example some speed bumps are slightly jarring and occasionally a canned drink in my cup holder will spill going over a speed bump or pulling into/out of a harsh driveway
Bigger bumps like train tracks are no problem at all and actually fun for the most part
I’ve jumped a curb a few times at about 20 mph to avoid a collision and it may have thrown my alignment out a little bit but it didn’t “hurt”
Hope this helps
Let me know if you have any other questions
Thanks for the input man! I looked at the link you included, and while I would not need the HD rear springs or the diff drop, the kit is still just over $1000, which is about $250-300 more than the comparable Eibach or Bilstein setups...though I do like the Toytec including the coilovers assembled in front with their own top plates and urethane bushings. I wasn't looking to do UCA's though, so did you do that out of necessity due to the full 3" of lift, or was that a precautionary choice for you?
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I don't know anything about the Eibach kit. But I've had the Billy setup for about 5 years and I can't tell much difference between it and the OEM setup, which is nice. Not harsh at all, maybe just a little more controlled.
Did you use the factory front and rear coil springs, and what setting are the front 5100's set at? Also, about how much lift did you end up with after everything settled in?
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Thanks for the input man! I looked at the link you included, and while I would not need the HD rear springs or the diff drop, the kit is still just over $1000, which is about $250-300 more than the comparable Eibach or Bilstein setups...though I do like the Toytec including the coilovers assembled in front with their own top plates and urethane bushings. I wasn't looking to do UCA's though, so did you do that out of necessity due to the full 3" of lift, or was that a precautionary choice for you?
I went with the UCA’s because I also had some 1/2” top plate spacers installed with my lift, so even if my oem UCA’s could have handled the coil overs, I doubt they could have handled the extra lift from the top plate spacers
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Ride quality is subjective and suspension choices are tough b/c this isn’t a shirt you can return if you don’t like the fit. See if anyone in a local 4x4 group has the setups you’re interested in and will let you ride shotgun. Even a trip around the block will leave you better informed to decide where you want to invest.
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Did you use the factory front and rear coil springs, and what setting are the front 5100's set at? Also, about how much lift did you end up with after everything settled in?
Yes, factory springs all around. 1.5" in the rear, 2.5" in the front.
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