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Old 02-09-2020, 04:35 PM #31
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That's actually the long filter, unless there is a longer one than that. The spec'd one for my 3.4L Tacoma uses the shorter version of the YZZD3. I just use the YZZD3 on both motors to keep it simple.
I think you maybe correct, but I though I read about a bigger one here on the forums but I might have not remebered which was the bigger filter, if I run across one that is indeed bigger than the YZZD3 I will post it, the YZZD3 is the filter that is specified for the 4th gen V8 and V6 plus many other Toyota engines, there's a shorter filter the YZZD1 that is used on the Tacoma, but many Tacoma owners use the YZZD3 because it's bigger.

I just spent the last hour or so reading a topic on Tacoma World where Chris 4X4 cut open a bunch of filters to compare them to the OEM filter, still haven't made it through the whole topic yet.
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I think you maybe correct, but I though I read about a bigger one here on the forums but I might have not remebered which was the bigger filter, if I run across one that is indeed bigger than the YZZD3 I will post it, the YZZD3 is the filter that is specified for the 4th gen V8 and V6 plus many other Toyota engines, there's a shorter filter the YZZD1 that is used on the Tacoma, but many Tacoma owners use the YZZD3 because it's bigger.

I just spent the last hour or so reading a topic on Tacoma World where Chris 4X4 cut open a bunch of filters to compare them to the OEM filter, still haven't made it through the whole topic yet.
YZZD3 is the long filter. YZZD1 I think is spec'd for both the 4.0 and the 3.4 5VZ, and the YZZD3 is for the 1UZ (and 2UZ?).

I used the YZZD3 on the 3.4 and the 4.0 without any issue whatsoever. Great filter.

I got a bunch of Wix 50516XP from RockAuto last order though and they're also super ****ing good and have more filter material. Fit well on the 4.0 since there's no limit to how long you can go.
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I appreciate everyone’s replies. I bought a case of the Toyota YGGZ3 (tall) filters, Penzoil Ultra Platinum full-synthetic, Zerex coolant flush, and Zerex Asian coolant.

I’ll stick to the 8,000 mile (two month) oil and filter changes for now, and I will opt for an oil analysis in the near future after a couple more changes. I’ll throw this analysis on my schedule for around 220,000-225,000 miles this summer.

Thanks for the help, everyone. Seriously. I really need to squeeze at least another 100k out of this old truck and I’m happy to hear that everyone thinks it’s likely— with good maintenance. I just paid the local Toyota dealership to do transmission, break fluid, and rear end drain-and-fills, but I can handle most of the other stuff like oil, coolant, and brake pads. Hopefully that’s all she needs!


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I appreciate everyone’s replies. I bought a case of the Toyota YGGZ3 (tall) filters, Penzoil Ultra Platinum full-synthetic, Zerex coolant flush, and Zerex Asian coolant.

I’ll stick to the 8,000 mile (two month) oil and filter changes for now, and I will opt for an oil analysis in the near future after a couple more changes. I’ll throw this analysis on my schedule for around 220,000-225,000 miles this summer.

Thanks for the help, everyone. Seriously. I really need to squeeze at least another 100k out of this old truck and I’m happy to hear that everyone thinks it’s likely— with good maintenance. I just paid the local Toyota dealership to do transmission, break fluid, and rear end drain-and-fills, but I can handle most of the other stuff like oil, coolant, and brake pads. Hopefully that’s all she needs!


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I hope the part number for the filter you posted is a typo, if not I have never heard of that number/filter.
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mobil 1 synthetic high mileage for my last change, i am going to use the amazon synthetic next time around i think $$
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I hope the part number for the filter you posted is a typo, if not I have never heard of that number/filter.


Yep, it was a typo. I meant to say the YZZD3.


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The OEM filter is fine...I use the higher capacity (slightly longer), longer drain interval Fram XG3600. Upside too is that the Fram Ultra is 99% efficient at 20-microns - whereas I believe the OEM one is 50% efficient at 20-microns. Someone over on BITOG even cut apart a Fram Ultra and a TRD (made by Champion) filter to compare.
I just spent hours reviewing filtration studies and build qualities online. I searched the entire T4R site and only your two posts suggesting using this filter are on here. I am currently swapping out the xg3614 for a xg3600 for its extra capacity. Its exactly the same specs as the xg3614 just longer thus more filtration media. I am dead certain this is the ultimate filter for our engines and I plan to swap every 5k as I am with the XG3614 as its currently on a .50 difference in price. Kudos.

To the lurkers, I would never put any other FRAM filter on my engine except the Ultra which seems to surpass everything on the market by good measure.
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I just spent hours reviewing filtration studies and build qualities online. I searched the entire T4R site and only your two posts suggesting using this filter are on here. I am currently swapping out the xg3614 for a xg3600 for its extra capacity. Its exactly the same specs as the xg3614 just longer thus more filtration media. I am dead certain this is the ultimate filter for our engines and I plan to swap every 5k as I am with the XG3614 as its currently on a .50 difference in price. Kudos.

To the lurkers, I would never put any other FRAM filter on my engine except the Ultra which seems to surpass everything on the market by good measure.
Indeed, I tend to probably over-research just about everything and it’s the best I could find! Glad I could help ya!
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Some filter manufacturers like to tout filtration efficiency rates but what about flow rates? I can put very high efficiency filters in my furnace too but it restricts the flow and makes the system work much harder. That is a bad trade off and reduces the life of the system. Same goes for oil filters. Does anyone list flow rates?
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That was a thought of mine as well. The more I started researching the more I discovered its a total non issue except perhaps in some high performance race engines in which the filter was rarely the problem but the engine oil channels were. One of the unique things about the Fram ultra is it's a dual layer synthetic material. Dual filtration layers to allow a consistent high flow and filtration rate over extended periods and a finer inner layer for the 99% filtration at 20 microns. Another consensus seems to be the the synthetic filter material flows at a much higher rate the the synthetic blend or the standard cellulose found in filters. So, I think your thought process and concern of flow rate is well placed, but it doesn't seem to be an issue anymore with modern filters that we'd use on our vehicles.
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Yeah, I am not too sure either, but too much focus on filtrations does still worry me a bit. I would really like to see what flow rate ranges manufacturers recommend for a vehicle, and what specific filters correspond to. For now, I tend to use OEM (truck & 4R) or OEM & Mobil1 (Jeep). I am running out of my Denso filters for the 4Runner so need to find something soon.

I had read an article that talked about the importance of oil flow rates through filters and how filter manufacturers were simply playing the micron game at the cost of flow. That is what got me thinking a couple of years ago.
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Yeah, I am not too sure either, but too much focus on filtrations does still worry me a bit. I would really like to see what flow rate ranges manufacturers recommend for a vehicle, and what specific filters correspond to. For now, I tend to use OEM (truck & 4R) or OEM & Mobil1 (Jeep). I am running out of my Denso filters for the 4Runner so need to find something soon.

I had read an article that talked about the importance of oil flow rates through filters and how filter manufacturers were simply playing the micron game at the cost of flow. That is what got me thinking a couple of years ago.
Fair enough. I went with the XG 3600 instead of the FRAM recommended XG3614 for the 1GR-FE. The dimensions were the same minus the height. The 3614 was 3.343 in. and the XG 3600 is 4.922 in. I am getting even greater surface area than recommended so I'm even less concerned about flow rates.
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Good to know. I'll take a look at that one plus the other top filters for my 4R. Worst case...OEM will be okay. They are apparently not as good as the original Densos (in filtering) but they can't be bad at all.
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When I was a kid, one of my friends' Dad was a drag racer, Harry Holton. He used a canister oil filter on his race engines that used toilet paper as the filter media.
I guess it worked. He won the Pro Stock Nationals using toilet paper.

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When I was a kid, one of my friends' Dad was a drag racer, Harry Holton. He used a canister oil filter on his race engines that used toilet paper as the filter media.
I guess it worked. He won the Pro Stock Nationals using toilet paper.

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