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Old 02-18-2020, 10:33 PM #31
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But, I've read (whatever that's worth) that the v6 isn't as good long-term, because the chain eventually gives out and then the engine is toast. Being able to replace the timing belt, and on my own, is a big perk to keeping an engine running. That and regular maintenance.

I can't do timing chains, way harder

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I guess a chain is maybe more involved... I'll do it when the time comes.

From what I've read (whatever that's worth) lol.. the chain usually will stretch first instead of outright failure, usually throws a code with it.

I've also read, and seen, people not keeping up with oil changes getting chains stretching on them a lot sooner than people who do the regular maintenance.

not trying to get on a soapbox or anything here...

Looking forward to hearing how the truck is when you get to see it. I would be dying having to wait that long, hope all goes well.

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But, I've read (whatever that's worth) that the v6 isn't as good long-term, because the chain eventually gives out and then the engine is toast. Being able to replace the timing belt, and on my own, is a big perk to keeping an engine running. That and regular maintenance.

I can't do timing chains, way harder

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That's a good point on the v6! If this falls though, I'll be less picky.

Yea, it's killing me waiting this long... and I keep reading stuff; worried that I won't like it as much as the 06 because of the VVTi (extra 30ish hp) in the 06 and the extra little things (projector headlights, leather, etc) that are included in the 06 Limited, and that dark blue color, man!
But, holding out for another one, may not be an option of mine! I mean, with less than a $4600 budget, they aren't exactly plentiful unless I go gen3.

I like the style of the gen4 best, it's a good mix of old and new, so IDK.

See, this is why I can't wait, I'll talk myself out of something! lol

It's all about the rust and fluids on this one, then I'll hand it over to a mechanic for inspection; he has a decent maintenance history, unlike the 06.
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Also, do the plastics look aftermarket to you?

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They do to me but I'm no expert. These guys will know.
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Also, do the plastics look aftermarket to you?

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Went back and looked at your previous post about this one, no mention of the year. I guessing they're OEM, and it's an 03... I think that's the only year they came with the non body matched flares. I'm not 100% sure on that tho.
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thats OEM. they had the non painted as mentioned above, and theres little notches in those fender flares too.
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Went back and looked at your previous post about this one, no mention of the year. I guessing they're OEM, and it's an 03... I think that's the only year they came with the non body matched flares. I'm not 100% sure on that tho.
Yea, 03, SR5, 4WD, v8, 251K miles on this one, the original post was about an 06 Limited v8 with 264K
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Also, do the plastics look aftermarket to you?

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Look exact as this rig. '03 v8 Sport Build
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Yea, 03, SR5, 4WD, v8, 251K miles on this one, the original post was about an 06 Limited v8 with 264K
Just looking at the photo I wondering if it's a 2WD and not a 4WD because all I see for the badges on the door is SR5 and no 4WD, I know the 4th GENS have both badges for a 4WD but I'm not sure for early 2003s.

DO you have any photos showing the dash and the 4WD control switch?
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Just looking at the photo I wondering if it's a 2WD and not a 4WD because all I see for the badges on the door is SR5 and no 4WD, I know the 4th GENS have both badges for a 4WD but I'm not sure for early 2003s.



DO you have any photos showing the dash and the 4WD control switch?
Sorta, the pic of the dash (I cropped) isn't close enough to be sure, but the silver dial is there in the location it should be. Listed as "awd with push button"

However, I think the 4wd came off the drivers door, the passenger side has it. It may have been wrecked but not reported to insurance/Carfax.

Again, I'll see it Saturday and will know a ton more instantly.


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Sorta, the pic of the dash (I cropped) isn't close enough to be sure, but the silver dial is there in the location it should be. Listed as "awd with push button"

However, I think the 4wd came off the drivers door, the passenger side has it. It may have been wrecked but not reported to insurance/Carfax.

Again, I'll see it Saturday and will know a ton more instantly.


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OK, it definitely looks to indeed be a 4WD, it just jumped out at me when I saw the photo of the driver's door and no badge.

Just so you know it will have the 5 speed transmission...but not the "sealed" version that came out later in 2004, so it will have a "normal" dipstick so be sure to pull the dipstick to see how the fluid looks and if it's low or not, it also uses type T-IV fluid and not the WS long life fluid.
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...it will have the 5 speed transmission...but not the "sealed" version that came out later in 2004, so it will have a "normal" dipstick so be sure to pull the dipstick to see how the fluid looks and if it's low or not, it also uses type T-IV fluid and not the WS long life fluid.
Oh, good, thanks for the heads up. Any other suggestions?

Man, IDK that 06, though more expensive and higher miles, is looking better and better.
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Oh, good, thanks for the heads up. Any other suggestions?

Man, IDK that 06, though more expensive and higher miles, is looking better and better.
I'm not sure if I made you worry about the 5 speed transmission being "different" than the later sealed transmission but don't worry they are the same transmission the only real difference is the "sealed" part and Toyota changed the type of fluid to one that would last a "lifetime" which is a load of crap, there's no such thing as a lifetime transmission fluid or any other type of oil, any lubricate will lose some if not all of it's lubricating properties after a certain number of miles, also Toyota "may" have changed some other minor things since the WS fluid has a lower viscosity but the transmissions are basically the same with the exception of one having a dipstick and the other not, that being said the WS fluid was engineered to have a longer service life over older fluids but Toyota says can't be used in the non-sealed transmission because of the lower viscosity, that's why you need to use the T-IV fluid.

When you pull the dipstick and look at the trans fluid also smell it, even if it looks dark and not cherry red but smells more or less like new transmission fluid everything should be fine but it might be a good idea to do a fluid change, if it smells like it's been burnt the transmission might have over heated at some point but if it shifts fine when driving it there may not be any issues from it overheating but I would definitely change out the fluid in this case.
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Also, do the plastics look aftermarket to you?

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They're actually painted satin black. The '03 SR5 & SportEdition OEM fender flares were originally a charcoal gray plastic (unpainted) and also have raised ridges on them. The '03 Limited models had paint-matched fender flares.
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