Home Menu

Site Navigation


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 03-06-2020, 04:54 PM #1
Gecko123 Gecko123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 521
Gecko123 is on a distinguished road
Gecko123 Gecko123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 521
Gecko123 is on a distinguished road
Gear oil

Is it worth paying more for certain brands of gear oil

A litre of Castrol oil is $20 but other gear oil such as Mobile 1, Royal Purple, etc is about $30 or more


The Castrol oil meets all the Toyota specs for gear oil ( diff oil)

Thoughts ?

Big savings when doing the two diff and transfer case.

By the way, these are Canadian prices.
Gecko123 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 05:19 PM #2
Elan750's Avatar
Elan750 Elan750 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Boston
Posts: 359
Elan750 will become famous soon enough
Elan750 Elan750 is offline
Member
Elan750's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Boston
Posts: 359
Elan750 will become famous soon enough
Walmart supertech full synthetic.
__________________
2005 4Runner Sport 4wd v6 -totaled!
2003 Lexus GX470
Elan750 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 05:41 PM #3
rdruss's Avatar
rdruss rdruss is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: illinois
Posts: 1,608
Real Name: Ron
rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold
rdruss rdruss is offline
Senior Member
rdruss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: illinois
Posts: 1,608
Real Name: Ron
rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold
No, on Royal Purple.
rdruss is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 06:18 PM #4
rdruss's Avatar
rdruss rdruss is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: illinois
Posts: 1,608
Real Name: Ron
rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold
rdruss rdruss is offline
Senior Member
rdruss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: illinois
Posts: 1,608
Real Name: Ron
rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdruss View Post
No, on Royal Purple.
East Coast Gear says Royal Purple is about worst gear oil. They recommend
Lucas 80W90 non synthetic. Go to their site and check it out.
rdruss is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 06:24 PM #5
badattitude's Avatar
badattitude badattitude is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 635
badattitude will become famous soon enough badattitude will become famous soon enough
badattitude badattitude is offline
Member
badattitude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 635
badattitude will become famous soon enough badattitude will become famous soon enough
I'd be very comfortable using Castrol Gear Oil. Last time I chose gear oil I used Mobil 1.
__________________
2015 4runner Limited - URD Y-pipe
2008 V6 Sport Edition
1999 4runner
TRD Air Filter. Airaid MIT. O ring mod. TRD Exhaust. Front Discos. TrueTrac
badattitude is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 06:27 PM #6
Drunner97's Avatar
Drunner97 Drunner97 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Anaheim
Age: 45
Posts: 3,405
Real Name: Danny
Drunner97 will become famous soon enough Drunner97 will become famous soon enough
Drunner97 Drunner97 is offline
Senior Member
Drunner97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Anaheim
Age: 45
Posts: 3,405
Real Name: Danny
Drunner97 will become famous soon enough Drunner97 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdruss View Post
East Coast Gear says Royal Purple is about worst gear oil. They recommend
Lucas 80W90 non synthetic. Go to their site and check it out.
85-140 for standard conditions, 80w90 for cold conditions. 85-140 is what I've been running since I regeared 3 1/2 years ago and haven't had a single issue since. I do still run mobil 1 synthetic in the transfer case though.

ECGS Gear Oil Recommendation
__________________
build thread: https://independentoffroading.com/in...xit-thread.30/

IG: @4runner_doa
Drunner97 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 06:34 PM #7
phatcheeks's Avatar
phatcheeks phatcheeks is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 380
phatcheeks is a jewel in the rough phatcheeks is a jewel in the rough phatcheeks is a jewel in the rough
phatcheeks phatcheeks is offline
Member
phatcheeks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 380
phatcheeks is a jewel in the rough phatcheeks is a jewel in the rough phatcheeks is a jewel in the rough
I used Mobil 1 Delvac 75w90. So far so good
__________________
04 V6 4x4. Eibach Pro Truck Shocks, OME 885, Icon 2" Springs. JBA UCA. 255/75/17 Kenda Klever AT/2. Spartan rear locker(removed). PCK. Hidden Winch
phatcheeks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 07:50 PM #8
Monty87ls Monty87ls is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: NY
Posts: 218
Monty87ls is on a distinguished road
Monty87ls Monty87ls is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: NY
Posts: 218
Monty87ls is on a distinguished road
I used Valvoline since I was bale to get a 4 quart jug and a few extra quarts on the side. Ended up being cheaper then the Mobil1 that I was gonna go with.

I looked at amsoil but was alot more $$. Anything is better then the black goop that dripped out.
Monty87ls is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 09:58 PM #9
importman importman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Lake City,SC
Posts: 486
Real Name: Danny
importman is a jewel in the rough importman is a jewel in the rough importman is a jewel in the rough importman is a jewel in the rough
importman importman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Lake City,SC
Posts: 486
Real Name: Danny
importman is a jewel in the rough importman is a jewel in the rough importman is a jewel in the rough importman is a jewel in the rough
I'd have no reservations about using the Castrol.
importman is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 11:03 PM #10
OC2003's Avatar
OC2003 OC2003 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Dana point ca
Posts: 137
OC2003 is on a distinguished road
OC2003 OC2003 is offline
Member
OC2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Dana point ca
Posts: 137
OC2003 is on a distinguished road
Lucas full synthetic 43.99 gallon and 14.99 a. Quart on Amazon one day delivery
__________________
[SIGPIC[/SIGPIC]03 V8 limited
Front 5100 toytec 620# springs jba uca
Rear 5160 with sway away springs. Rci skid. Spc rear trailing arms
Diff drop 285/70/17 k02 n 17x9 ar172
OC2003 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-07-2020, 12:03 PM #11
firebirdguy firebirdguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: iowa
Posts: 905
firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light
firebirdguy firebirdguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: iowa
Posts: 905
firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdruss View Post
East Coast Gear says Royal Purple is about worst gear oil. They recommend
Lucas 80W90 non synthetic. Go to their site and check it out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunner97 View Post
85-140 for standard conditions, 80w90 for cold conditions. 85-140 is what I've been running since I regeared 3 1/2 years ago and haven't had a single issue since. I do still run mobil 1 synthetic in the transfer case though.

ECGS Gear Oil Recommendation
not sure what year your guys 4runners are, but no 4th gen calls for 85/140 in any of the diff's. & only calls for 80/90 in the rear if you operate below 0*f, otherwise it says straight 90w, but thats hard to find so 80/90 is perfectly fine for all temps... & as of 08 toyota says to use full synthetic the rear also which is usually a 75/90.

the front & center diff call for 75/90 which is only available in a full synthetic. not sure why you would suggest a non synthetic or 85/140 unless theres a specific purpose for it or aftermarket parts call for it.

as for brands, there is nothing wrong with any brand gear or motor oil if it meets the specs of your vehicle. & as mentioned above, walmart gear & motor oils are great, they are made by a major oil company for walmart & have been tested to be very good oils. i use valvoline since its a top rated brand & is usually quite a bit cheaper than the other popular brands like mobil 1 etc.

Last edited by firebirdguy; 03-07-2020 at 12:06 PM.
firebirdguy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-07-2020, 03:36 PM #12
rdruss's Avatar
rdruss rdruss is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: illinois
Posts: 1,608
Real Name: Ron
rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold
rdruss rdruss is offline
Senior Member
rdruss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: illinois
Posts: 1,608
Real Name: Ron
rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by firebirdguy View Post
not sure what year your guys 4runners are, but no 4th gen calls for 85/140 in any of the diff's. & only calls for 80/90 in the rear if you operate below 0*f, otherwise it says straight 90w, but thats hard to find so 80/90 is perfectly fine for all temps... & as of 08 toyota says to use full synthetic the rear also which is usually a 75/90.

the front & center diff call for 75/90 which is only available in a full synthetic. not sure why you would suggest a non synthetic or 85/140 unless theres a specific purpose for it or aftermarket parts call for it.

as for brands, there is nothing wrong with any brand gear or motor oil if it meets the specs of your vehicle. & as mentioned above, walmart gear & motor oils are great, they are made by a major oil company for walmart & have been tested to be very good oils. i use valvoline since its a top rated brand & is usually quite a bit cheaper than the other popular brands like mobil 1 etc.
I use Valvoline and/or Mobil1 75/90 myself and have for years with no problems. With regard to specs though, you can just barely meet specs so as to be certified or you can exceed the specs comfortably to provide longer and better protection. One thing that many marginal spec makers are weak on is pour point, in 30 degree and below their oil doesn't want to flow. That is not so important in warm climates, but in the north it is definitely something to be considered.
ECG has first hand experience with diffs and I would take what they say to heart if I were putting my vehicle to the test off road.
rdruss is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-07-2020, 04:20 PM #13
Drift Monkey's Avatar
Drift Monkey Drift Monkey is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 618
Drift Monkey is just really nice Drift Monkey is just really nice Drift Monkey is just really nice Drift Monkey is just really nice Drift Monkey is just really nice
Drift Monkey Drift Monkey is offline
Member
Drift Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 618
Drift Monkey is just really nice Drift Monkey is just really nice Drift Monkey is just really nice Drift Monkey is just really nice Drift Monkey is just really nice
Gonna run M1 Full Synth when I change all mine out next weekend - used a coupon from Advance Auto. Also picked up some M1 synth grease for the driveshaft zerks.
__________________
2006 4Runner Sport Edition V8 4WD
Drift Monkey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-07-2020, 05:03 PM #14
firebirdguy firebirdguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: iowa
Posts: 905
firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light
firebirdguy firebirdguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: iowa
Posts: 905
firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light firebirdguy is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdruss View Post
I use Valvoline and/or Mobil1 75/90 myself and have for years with no problems. With regard to specs though, you can just barely meet specs so as to be certified or you can exceed the specs comfortably to provide longer and better protection. One thing that many marginal spec makers are weak on is pour point, in 30 degree and below their oil doesn't want to flow. That is not so important in warm climates, but in the north it is definitely something to be considered.
ECG has first hand experience with diffs and I would take what they say to heart if I were putting my vehicle to the test off road.
by "specs" i meant the proper weight & that it has the correct rating like GL4 or GL5. toyota & most other brands simply call for a GL4/5 gear oil of the right weight for their diffs. playing around with brands is fine but experimenting with weights or ratings on stock parts has no real benefits for the average street driven vehicle. you cant really tell if a brand barely meets specs or greatly exceeds them. most you can do is compare additives from an analysis to compare brands. to me if it meets the GL5 rating it is acceptable to use for 99% of 4runners on the road. inluding castrol.

i agree there are better brands of oils & types of oil for cold pour point, a synthetic will usually pour better than a regular oil. but there are vids comparing many brands of oils from walmart supertech to amsoil & redline & royal purple & mobil1. supertech synthetic beat all but one or 2 of the most expensive synthetic brands in the cold pour test & did very well in the other wear & burn tests. just saying its hard to say one oil is better than another based on brand or price alone.

Last edited by firebirdguy; 03-07-2020 at 05:07 PM.
firebirdguy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-07-2020, 06:00 PM #15
Gecko123 Gecko123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 521
Gecko123 is on a distinguished road
Gecko123 Gecko123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 521
Gecko123 is on a distinguished road
Thanks everyone. I went with Castrol and it was $18 a litre in Canada which is a good price here.
Gecko123 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
castrol , diff , gear , oil , savings


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Review: East Coast Gear Supply Gear Swap comtn4x4 5th gen T4Rs 27 09-20-2021 07:57 PM
Gear shifter really hard to move/shift into gear (auto trans) infamousRNR 3rd gen T4Rs 7 07-03-2018 03:42 PM
Top Gear USA Supra725 Off Topic 18 01-19-2011 04:41 PM
Gear Oil to Prevent Gear "whine" - suggestions? BIG 4th Gen T4Rs 5 11-18-2010 11:54 AM
Proper A/T Gear to be used with L4 gear toyslug 5th gen T4Rs 5 08-05-2010 05:23 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020