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Old 11-11-2020, 05:09 PM #16
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V6 is easier to work on, cheaper with the timing chain, gets better fuel mileage, lighter weight (aluminum vs steel), etc.

The V8 4th gen shouldn't exist. It cuts into the GX-470 sales and Toyota's other higher-end vehicles. Not even the Tacoma has a V8 option, and as far as I know the 4Runner has never had 2 motor options. The V8 4th gen has to be a fluke. For a reason unknown to me it exists and I love it.
I think this is part of the draw for me oddly enough. Makes no sense and I don't NEED it, but damn is it cool.

Had the chance to drive a 4th gen V6 today. Drove really well but am holding on an opinion until i get the opportunity to try a V8.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the faulty HG years are 03-06, correct? The '07 and newer years have the redesign...?
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06' and up have the redesigned headgasket.

I would recommend 05'+ V8 (vvti) or 06'+ V6 (headgasket plus the 5 speed trans. in 2005)
There are some early built 2006 V6s that have the old head gasket design, when looking at any 2006 V6s you need to find the build date that's on the VIN sticker on the driver's door jamb, build date of 12/05 and later have the new designed head gaskets.
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How much are V8s going for these days? I found a 07 sport V8 for $15k 123k miles thats clean with a clean carfax. According to kbb, it should only be around $11k (thats the higher end of the scale). Is it one of those vehicles where kbb doesnt matter and its the market that dictates the price? I'm really interested in it but not if im overpaying by alot
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How much are V8s going for these days? I found a 07 sport V8 for $15k 123k miles thats clean with a clean carfax. According to kbb, it should only be around $11k (thats the higher end of the scale). Is it one of those vehicles where kbb doesnt matter and its the market that dictates the price? I'm really interested in it but not if im overpaying by alot
It sounds a bit high to me based on prices I've seen in my general area, but I'll also say that very few 05+ V8s with lower mileage and in good shape have come up near me. The ones that do are gone quick.
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06' and up have the redesigned headgasket.

I would recommend 05'+ V8 (vvti) or 06'+ V6 (headgasket plus the 5 speed trans. in 2005)
Thanks for this. I did not realize the 04 V8s didn't have VVTi.
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How much are V8s going for these days? I found a 07 sport V8 for $15k 123k miles thats clean with a clean carfax. According to kbb, it should only be around $11k (thats the higher end of the scale). Is it one of those vehicles where kbb doesnt matter and its the market that dictates the price? I'm really interested in it but not if im overpaying by alot
That's probably on the high side, but I bet it goes for close if not full price. If that's not a beat up/rusty truck then finding a nice one with low mileage is a market that kind of brings whatever it wants.
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I have a V-8 because I tow a boat. It does that job very well.

In every day driving, I enjoy the seemingly effortless torque vs the rev way up feeling in my neighbor's V-6
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My truck is straight highway/pavement(don't think construction sites count for offroad). And drive more like I'm in the wife's g35s.

I think you answered your own question, twice.

I also think anybody shopping this old of a truck, do yourself the favor and get the unicorn.

As far as the road manners, know what you're getting into. It's a pickup design, and rides like it. Don't think the V8/AWD has any additional negative impact with it. Except for when you floor it when leaving a turn. The pull/push you'll get will

Also others say the power is no different Maybe offroad?? But I think it depends how you use it. Me I'm cruise control 75-80, and I like that a moderate press on the gas to drop a gear and I'm rolling to 90+ really quick(whether it's empty DD, or loaded up with the fam on a road trip while going through mountain passes). Which is handy when blinkers seem to mean "speed up! I don't want to come over!"

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Apologies for the double post- received a PM that members cannot access my previous thread, and I cannot either. I posted the thread in the Software section of the site to get it deleted. If a mod sees this, or if anyone has one that I can PM, I'd appreciate it!

Here's the gist- looking for my first 4runner, and going mad reading v6 vs. v8 threads here. My driving consists of 70/20/10 highway/city/offroad, around 15-20K miles a year. I tow a 3800 lb boat anywhere from 1K-2K miles of that each year, and launch on unmaintained dirt ramps sometimes. Gas mileage isn't a real concern for me, but the driving experience on road might be. Does the full time 4WD affect the highway or city driving manners on the V8s? Obviously the majority of my time is spent on the road, and it would be my only vehicle, so it is a consideration for me. I definitely lean towards the V8, because V8, but would be interested in hearing from those with experience with both. Thanks in advance!
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I owned a '06 SR5 2WD V6 for a couple of years. I upgraded to an '08 Limited 4WD V8 a couple years ago and couldn't be happier.

Driveability is the same with both. At highway speed, they both pulled the same RPM at the same speed. Around town; no difference. I live in the mountains. Winter driving in the snow was the same, even with 2WD v. 4WD. Traction control did save me in the 2WD on an icy highway; so no complaints with the 2WD.

I bought the '08 for the Limited amenities, and the potential for future upgrades, with it's ability to turn off the traction control. From my understanding, it was only available on the '08-'09 model years.

If you don't want to buy 2 T4Rs like I did, I suggest holding out for what you want. The V6's oil changes are the easiest and cleanest I've ever done. I miss that about the V6.
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Does the full time 4WD affect the highway or city driving manners on the V8s? Obviously the majority of my time is spent on the road, and it would be my only vehicle, so it is a consideration for me.
Everyone else has pretty well covered the V8 vs V6 question.

As far as the full time AWD, Iíd say if you have the chance to get one with it, go for it.

Iím a fan of RWD sedans and love that driving experience.
01 IS300, 03 G35, 10 Genesis 4.6L, my son has an 08 328i.
Have an 03 Limited, 4.7L now. And use it mainly for commuting.

But I really enjoy having the AWD.
Doesnít seem to matter what the conditions (except snow), I can put my foot to the floor and it pulls hard with no slipping and no annoying traction control cutting in.
Even in pouring down rain.
That system gives a lot of confidence driving in adverse conditions.
Even my wifeís 3.5L 14 Avalon with FWD struggles to find traction when accelerating hard from a stop, with the added annoyance of torque steer.

And when hustling it hard on curvy roads always seems to have traction and pulls through corners very well at higher speeds for what it is (SUV on a truck frame).
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Thanks for this. I did not realize the 04 V8s didn't have VVTi.
The '04 V8's also don't have that very, very expensive air injection pump problem that is prevalent on the '05+ VVTI V8's. Had to replace it in my '06 LX and that $ucked.
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I have an04 Limited with the V8. It tows my 4,000 lb boat with no problem and sounds awesome when I have to step on it while merging onto the highway.
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The '04 V8's also don't have that very, very expensive air injection pump problem that is prevalent on the '05+ VVTI V8's. Had to replace it in my '06 LX and that $ucked.
To be fair that's like a $40, 20 minute fix if you bypass it before it needs replaced.
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To be fair that's like a $40, 20 minute fix if you bypass it before it needs replaced.
Yeah I know, but that's not really fair because here in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia tampering with smog equipment is hugely illegal and getting caught will put you under the microscope of The Almighty Authorities Of The Department of Smog and most likely will not be worth it. Two of my V8's had to undergo the bi-annual inspection this year and those guys definitely looked, poked, and prodded inside my engine bay and underneath, presumably looking for alterations. Not sure how it is in the beautiful Free State of Kansas or the other 48 states though.

Fortunately, the air injection pump issue seems to be a 100,000 mile issue so unless you're putting 25-30k+ miles annually it's probably worth taking the cost risk. Fortunately when ours gave out on the LX it was in our driveway and not dozens of miles in to back country.
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I have a '08 V8 with 448,500 miles on it. Only basic maintenance and all original drivetrain. V6 motors cannot compete with longevity, period. I had the passenger exhaust manifold leak that is common. I pulled the manifold, welded the crack up, and reinstalled in less than 8 hours total at a cost of under $50 with the gasket and new exhaust nuts.

My friend has a new Tacoma and he is rather unimpressed stating it is slow in comparison to driving my 4Runner.

If you plan on upgrading your tire size at all then the V8 is the way to go. If you go V6 and bigger tires then you'll have to regear the differentials for sure.

The late model GX470 or a early model GX460 would be great contenders for a V8 driven Toyota and towing. $20k right now gets you a nice GX series. I would also not rule out well taken care of Sequoias if you have a large family or want the extra storage.
I don't really understand most of your claims. I have 240,000 on my 07 V6 and it's showing zero signs of giving up anytime soon. I've never replaced an exhaust manifold or the air pump.
I have heard the new Tacoma and 4runner both feel sluggish despite having more power than the 1GR but I think that has something to do with the throttle position sensor and programming, plus being 500 lbs heavier.
As far as tires I run 32's but would not think twice about 33's if I thought the spare would fit. Plenty of power.
The only valid argument I can see here is the boat towing. But that boat is gonna be heavy for any 4runner and I wouldn't want to do it.
You didn't mention mileage but it's not really a wash from what I've seen. Stock my V6 would routinely get around 420 miles to a tank (Highway). My neighbor's V8 with 31's was only getting 230 ish to a tank. That adds up in stops and CA gas ain't cheap. My .02
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