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Dobinson rear LT vs Toytec Superflex
I currently have superflex rear springs with bilstein 5100 but want to change to Dobinson rear LT. is the superflex consider long travel springs? If they are i was just going to replace my rear shocks with dobinson long travel instead.
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11-11-2020, 09:37 PM
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The shock length is what determines your travel, not the springs. You need to choose the spring rate you want for the load you carry and then choose a spring length to give you the ride height that you want. The shock length decision interacts with the ride height decision or you can easily end up with no droop and all up travel. The following short article will help you decide how much up and down travel you want to end up with:
Go Fast Suspension Design Article | AccuTune Off-Road
What are you really trying to achieve?
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11-11-2020, 10:27 PM
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dobinson is like a chinese knockoff. lol
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dobinson is like a chinese knockoff. lol
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Don't you mean Toytec is a Chinese knockoff?
Dobs has the best budget LT kit on the market.
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I currently have superflex rear springs with bilstein 5100 but want to change to Dobinson rear LT. is the superflex consider long travel springs? If they are i was just going to replace my rear shocks with dobinson long travel instead.
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The short of it is you'll need longer springs and extended bump stops to make LT shocks work. Get a hold of
@ Crikeymike
and he can help with part numbers and such. He's also running a sale through November.
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Quote:
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I currently have superflex rear springs with bilstein 5100 but want to change to Dobinson rear LT. is the superflex consider long travel springs? If they are i was just going to replace my rear shocks with dobinson long travel instead.
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I went from 5100+spacer lift to Dobinsons LT, so let me know if there are any particular questions I can may be helpful with.
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Quote:
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I currently have superflex rear springs with bilstein 5100 but want to change to Dobinson rear LT. is the superflex consider long travel springs? If they are i was just going to replace my rear shocks with dobinson long travel instead.
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Yes, they're a progressive spring and has some really good flex. I'm not sure what the limit is though with the length of shocks that can be ran with them. Best to give them a call and see if they have that info for you, then you can choose a longer shock without changing the springs.
The LT shocks though require longer brake lines, bump stop extensions, and preferably upper and lower trailing arms to rotate the pinion angle a bit and gain axle housing clearance from the shock at full droop. They can make contact with stock arms, and the upper arm on the driver's side can also contact the fuel tank too.
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Just because they say that on THIER website, doesn't make it true. They are still, a Chinese knockoff IMO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crikeymike
Yes, they're a progressive spring and has some really good flex. I'm not sure what the limit is though with the length of shocks that can be ran with them. Best to give them a call and see if they have that info for you, then you can choose a longer shock without changing the springs.
The LT shocks though require longer brake lines, bump stop extensions, and preferably upper and lower trailing arms to rotate the pinion angle a bit and gain axle housing clearance from the shock at full droop. They can make contact with stock arms, and the upper arm on the driver's side can also contact the fuel tank too.
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Do you work for them?
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Do you work for them?
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He does and is upfront about it. Nothing to hide. I also tagged him and said as much.
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He does and is upfront about it. Nothing to hide. I also tagged him and said as much.
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Yes, and my name is Mike Tomczyk, what's your name? You work for Toytec, right?
No worries there, just don't go slandering stuff that you have no idea about, as spreading misinformation about a product isn't the right thing to be doing on forums.
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Quote:
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Yes, and my name is Mike Tomczyk, what's your name? You work for Toytec, right?
No worries there, just don't go slandering stuff that you have no idea about, as spreading misinformation about a product isn't the right thing to be doing on forums.
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so, you're a vendor, makes sense why you keep trying to talk them up.... My name is Ric, I help run a warehouse.
Ive been wheeling long enough to know what works and what doesnt, what will last and what wont,,been in business long enough to know quality products when I see them. Am I an expert? NOPE.
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