Home Menu

Site Navigation


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 11-13-2020, 03:12 PM #1
gaswede gaswede is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Louisville
Posts: 42
gaswede is on a distinguished road
gaswede gaswede is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Louisville
Posts: 42
gaswede is on a distinguished road
O2 sensor .xls overview

Can someone take a look at my attachments of my O2 sensor and Cat data?
One test at a time, I'm trying to systematically find a problem leading to my drastic loss in mpg and eliminate the fact that its all in my gearing.

I had to delee a chunk of the temp data just to shrink the file size but hopefully it will give a good idea of what going on.
Attached Files
File Type: doc cat temp.doc (131.5 KB, 17 views)
File Type: doc O2's.doc (107.5 KB, 21 views)
gaswede is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 11-13-2020, 06:13 PM #2
duffdog duffdog is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Sacramento CA
Posts: 683
duffdog is a jewel in the rough duffdog is a jewel in the rough duffdog is a jewel in the rough
duffdog duffdog is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Sacramento CA
Posts: 683
duffdog is a jewel in the rough duffdog is a jewel in the rough duffdog is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by gaswede View Post
Can someone take a look at my attachments of my O2 sensor and Cat data?
One test at a time, I'm trying to systematically find a problem leading to my drastic loss in mpg and eliminate the fact that its all in my gearing.

I had to delee a chunk of the temp data just to shrink the file size but hopefully it will give a good idea of what going on.
Hi.

Correct o2 sensor (post cat) function is pretty simple. The engine starts and begins to warm the cats, this causes an increase in voltage from .055V to a nominal .7V when fully warmed. After 60 seconds, the system goes into closed loop where the PCM spikes the fuel injector pulse width up and down to do 2 things. First, the stoichiometric ratio or lambda is modeled with the pre-cat sensor to provide rich/lean readings. Second, the changes in unburnt fuel through the system are measured by the post cat o2 sensor. These changes in fuel are not supposed to create drastic voltage changes on the o2 sensor due to the catalyst simply absorbing the extra oxygen. If the changes in o2 sensor readings match the changes in IPW the system will trip the catalyst efficiency obd2 code. Note that the o2 sensor changes are detected using PLL and not a lookup table - enabling phase transitions to appear like the cat is working (o2 sensor simulator).

If your cat is simply failing (or on the edge of failing), the PCM will retard the timing to burn extra o2 to keep the post-cat o2 sensor happy. Eventually, this will have no effect and the P0420/P0430 codes will be tripped. A way to "fix" it is to put on 2 spark plug defoulers to move the sensor nose out of the way of the exhaust stream. This does not improve mpg or hp. A better way is to put a small catalytic converter on the nose of only the o2 sensor to provide the PCM with data that shows that a brand new cat has been installed and advances the timing accordingly.

It looks like the mini-cat is what you are looking for. PM me for details.
__________________
2005 Blue SR5 v8

3" suspension lift, 1" body lift, 315's, rear Elocker, on-board air system, slider air tanks, full skid plates, front Demello bumper, rear HMF plate/tube bumper, rear 9000lb hidden winch, front 10000lb winch, dual electric fans (in cab adjustable temp), rock lights, 25W LED projector lights.
duffdog is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 11-15-2020, 01:54 PM #3
gaswede gaswede is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Louisville
Posts: 42
gaswede is on a distinguished road
gaswede gaswede is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Louisville
Posts: 42
gaswede is on a distinguished road
Thanks for that great info man. This made perfect sense. Going over my data and with further research it looks like I’m an acceptable range. While my spark plugs are only 15k miles old, it may be time to pull and read them to make sure I’m not too rich.
gaswede is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 11-15-2020, 02:24 PM #4
Drcoffee's Avatar
Drcoffee Drcoffee is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Somewhere, yet nowhere
Posts: 1,739
Drcoffee is just really nice Drcoffee is just really nice Drcoffee is just really nice Drcoffee is just really nice Drcoffee is just really nice
Drcoffee Drcoffee is offline
Senior Member
Drcoffee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Somewhere, yet nowhere
Posts: 1,739
Drcoffee is just really nice Drcoffee is just really nice Drcoffee is just really nice Drcoffee is just really nice Drcoffee is just really nice
Make sure your plugs are gapped correctly. It should be 0.043”. Mine came gapped at 0.37” and I had to reset them. A small gap will not give you a hot enough spark.
__________________
2007 4Runner Sport 4WD 4.0L 228,000 miles
The real stats on gun murders in America compared to the world (link)
Good riddance to the Clinton Crime Family--> I Voted TRUMP…how’s it going for you now Trump is gone? Be careful what you ask for. You may just get it.
Drcoffee is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
data , delee , file , gearing , sensor


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ARB drawer install overview ArrArr 5th gen T4Rs 68 02-27-2021 11:57 PM
New C4 Hybrid Front Bumper Overview Battle Born Offroad 5th gen T4Rs 0 08-01-2019 12:36 AM
Overview of Orange County ethernectar So Cal 11 03-28-2012 04:31 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:16 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020