User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-23-2021, 05:35 PM #1
Forum148 Forum148 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 129
Forum148 is on a distinguished road
Forum148 Forum148 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 129
Forum148 is on a distinguished road
Tundra rear shocks or "superflexy" set up

Hey Guys,

Went down the rabbit whole today on trying to figure out how to get more travel out of the rear of our trucks without going with a full long travel kit. I think I have found that you can just run Tundra rear shocks as replacements. Wondering if anyone has first hand experience doing so.

Along my studies I also ran into the FJ guys doing what they call "superflexy" set ups. They are not using direct Tundra shocks but different shocks that extend the overall length and travel of the shock in the rear. The Tundra shock is not as long as what they are doing so I am thinking it may work fairly easily.

Here's a link to the "Superflexy" thread:
superflexy on the cheap, or more expensive if you're into that :bigthumb: | Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum

My idea here is using a 11 inch or sub 11 inch travel shock. I'm Currently running Icon 2.0's w/ icon 2" spring so I was looking at the Tundra 2.0 Icon Shock or they also make a universal 11 inch shock that could be a viable option as well. Trying to figure out if I would need to switch my icon spring for the toytec one. Gears are turning any experience or advice is much appreciated

Cheers!
__________________
06 V8 SR5 --Kings--JBAs--RCI armor--Lil B's--33s--Wheel and Party--
Forum148 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-23-2021, 06:28 PM #2
MAST4R's Avatar
MAST4R MAST4R is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,382
MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold
MAST4R MAST4R is offline
Senior Member
MAST4R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,382
MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forum148 View Post
Hey Guys,

Went down the rabbit whole today on trying to figure out how to get more travel out of the rear of our trucks without going with a full long travel kit. I think I have found that you can just run Tundra rear shocks as replacements. Wondering if anyone has first hand experience doing so.

Along my studies I also ran into the FJ guys doing what they call "superflexy" set ups. They are not using direct Tundra shocks but different shocks that extend the overall length and travel of the shock in the rear. The Tundra shock is not as long as what they are doing so I am thinking it may work fairly easily.

Here's a link to the "Superflexy" thread:
superflexy on the cheap, or more expensive if you're into that :bigthumb: | Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum

My idea here is using a 11 inch or sub 11 inch travel shock. I'm Currently running Icon 2.0's w/ icon 2" spring so I was looking at the Tundra 2.0 Icon Shock or they also make a universal 11 inch shock that could be a viable option as well. Trying to figure out if I would need to switch my icon spring for the toytec one. Gears are turning any experience or advice is much appreciated

Cheers!
Good question. I assume the intent is to have better traction and stability on higher-rated, slow-going CO mountain trails?

Looks like an involved process. The Icon 2.0 has just under 9" of exposed shaft and is good up to 3" lift with overall length, hand measured, 24" and per published numbers, 24.5". Other shocks good to 3" have the same extended length around 24-24.5.

So you want 2" extra. But that means how much rear lift? 4" rear lift? What would be the minimum spring that can use +2" shock travel? I don't know. But any difficulties reworking the rear suspension for a 4-5" lift aside, what front lift are you going to have to match a 4-5" rear lift?

Even at 3" of total lift front and back you are robbing your front suspension from travel in order to give your rear suspension more travel. Yet our trucks flex better in the rear anyway.

Wouldn't the end result be a truck more capable to climb big rocks and ledges but not more capable (in fact, less capable) of coming back down said rocks and ledges? Would that not cause issues, like, in rolling it on an offcamber spot that was ok going up but is not ok coming down?

Just thinking aloud.
__________________
2018 TRD OP non-kdss, well armored, well used
(6112s/650lb at 1.25"-1.5" lift, 8100 rear with Bilstein B12 1.5" springs, Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 LTE 265 70 17, RCI set of front 3/16 skids, Shrockworks step sliders and 3/16 steel gas tank skid, C4Fab rear diff skid, Rockmen rear LCAs, Total Chaos rear LCA bracket skids, Diode Dynamics SS3 white fog lights).
MAST4R is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-23-2021, 06:55 PM #3
Forum148 Forum148 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 129
Forum148 is on a distinguished road
Forum148 Forum148 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 129
Forum148 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAST4R View Post
Good question. I assume the intent is to have better traction and stability on higher-rated, slow-going CO mountain trails?

Looks like an involved process. The Icon 2.0 has just under 9" of exposed shaft and is good up to 3" lift with overall length, hand measured, 24" and per published numbers, 24.5". Other shocks good to 3" have the same extended length around 24-24.5.

So you want 2" extra. But that means how much rear lift? 4" rear lift? What would be the minimum spring that can use +2" shock travel? I don't know. But any difficulties reworking the rear suspension for a 4-5" lift aside, what front lift are you going to have to match a 4-5" rear lift?

Even at 3" of total lift front and back you are robbing your front suspension from travel in order to give your rear suspension more travel. Yet our trucks flex better in the rear anyway.

Wouldn't the end result be a truck more capable to climb big rocks and ledges but not more capable (in fact, less capable) of coming back down said rocks and ledges? Would that not cause issues, like, in rolling it on an offcamber spot that was ok going up but is not ok coming down?

Just thinking aloud.
So the idea here is not actually adding lift to the truck but having a shock that has more travel which in turn will allow for more droop. The weight of the truck will have the shock sitting further into its travel but when going through rocky terrain will allow for that shock to extend to a longer length thus giving me more droop. If I need to change the spring it would be to a Toytec Superflex spring which last time I checked (and its been years since i've looked into that spring) is still good for roughly 2 inches of travel.

If you look into the FJ thread I am looking at doing his "on the cheap" set up minus using the Procomp shocks that he does.

Basically needing a spring that can support having a 10.5-11 inch travel shock. While not adding additional lift to it.

Thanks for the input I too am just thinking out loud
__________________
06 V8 SR5 --Kings--JBAs--RCI armor--Lil B's--33s--Wheel and Party--
Forum148 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-23-2021, 07:11 PM #4
MAST4R's Avatar
MAST4R MAST4R is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,382
MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold
MAST4R MAST4R is offline
Senior Member
MAST4R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,382
MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold MAST4R is a splendid one to behold
Yeah, it is fun to discuss this.

Assuming there is a spring that can do something along those lines, I guess the other question would be about the shock body vs the shock shaft.

The Dobinsons long travel allows for 3.5" in the rear GS 59-575, IMS 59-50575, and MRA A575.

So all these are 28.75" extended and 16.73 collapsed.

That sounds like what you want. May be PM Mike to see what springs work with those?
__________________
2018 TRD OP non-kdss, well armored, well used
(6112s/650lb at 1.25"-1.5" lift, 8100 rear with Bilstein B12 1.5" springs, Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 LTE 265 70 17, RCI set of front 3/16 skids, Shrockworks step sliders and 3/16 steel gas tank skid, C4Fab rear diff skid, Rockmen rear LCAs, Total Chaos rear LCA bracket skids, Diode Dynamics SS3 white fog lights).
MAST4R is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-24-2021, 09:19 PM #5
Forum148 Forum148 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 129
Forum148 is on a distinguished road
Forum148 Forum148 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 129
Forum148 is on a distinguished road
Ahhhh man but that’s too easy!
__________________
06 V8 SR5 --Kings--JBAs--RCI armor--Lil B's--33s--Wheel and Party--
Forum148 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-25-2021, 03:44 PM #6
flipflopnfly's Avatar
flipflopnfly flipflopnfly is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 348
flipflopnfly is on a distinguished road
flipflopnfly flipflopnfly is offline
Member
flipflopnfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 348
flipflopnfly is on a distinguished road
If you want to go super flexy you'll have to remove the rear sway bar, then you will have to install extended brake lines. Then, if you want to sustain highway handling you will need the HD springs or airbags to compensate for removing the rear swaybar. When you lift you will need the taller 9" airbags if you go that route. It's a good setup but you have to do it right.
__________________
Donated to SoulDog Rescue - '07 Limited 4.7 4WD | Toytec Boss kit front and rear set to 2.0" in front with standard Superflex 2" lift rear coils | Firestone 9" airbags | 600W Samlex PSW inverter | Slyfox SAIP bypass | Toytec 14" rear brakelines

'08 Limited 4.7 4WD | Toytec BOSS kit front and rear set to 2.75" front standard Superflex 2" lift rear coils | SPC balljoint UCA's | Firestone 9" airbags | Slyfox SAIP bypass | Toytec 14" rear brakelines

Last edited by flipflopnfly; 01-25-2021 at 04:02 PM.
flipflopnfly is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
icon , rear , shock , shocks , tundra

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fox Tundra 2.5" Rear Shocks w/ KDSS baysta 5th gen T4Rs 3 08-12-2020 09:15 PM
FS: 2016 "take offs" Coilovers and rear shocks, $40, St Louis MO brenfoley For Sale: T4R Items 0 02-10-2020 01:00 PM
Fs Tundra Trd spring and shocks yy-yb "SoCal" Killer6eans For Sale: T4R Items 0 03-23-2016 12:22 AM
Removing the "vulcanized" bushings from the rear Tundra Bilstein 5100s? jaredawoodruff 3rd gen T4Rs 4 11-06-2012 03:07 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:15 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020