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This would have been the cheapest fix - why did you start here to eliminate this as a possibility?
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Well, because it never crossed my mind as a potential culprit until yesterday when I was thinking "what on earth could it be" and it randomly crossed my mind.
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I mean you didn't seem to think there was an issue to begin with which leads me to believe any present noise hasn't noticeably changed during your ownership. We don't know how they did their diagnostics... Do you have anything other than highway tread tires on it? Are the tires perhaps cupped at all? Either of those scenarios could produce a wheel bearing like noise which wouldn't change while turning. IMO/IME I wouldn't have jumped to the most expensive repair first without being 100% sure that was the issue. Not blaming you in any way... but if a shop is going to say a diff is bad I am going to want to know what they did to verify it.
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Oh, and regarding the tires being cupped, I bet I have less than 50 miles total on them. Now...I would be curious as well whether a complete alignment may change things a bit.
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I mean you didn't seem to think there was an issue to begin with which leads me to believe any present noise hasn't noticeably changed during your ownership. We don't know how they did their diagnostics... Do you have anything other than highway tread tires on it? Are the tires perhaps cupped at all? Either of those scenarios could produce a wheel bearing like noise which wouldn't change while turning. IMO/IME I wouldn't have jumped to the most expensive repair first without being 100% sure that was the issue. Not blaming you in any way... but if a shop is going to say a diff is bad I am going to want to know what they did to verify it.
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And I knew $700 for the 3rd wasn't cheap, but I was happy it wasn't the $3,000 quoted to me by the shop and if it fixed the issue I was very happy to pay it. I was more worried about fixing the issue quickly than a few hundred. I don't deny that this likely cost me unnecessary money in parts.
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Again, my comment wasn't meant to mean you did anything wrong. More sympathy for your troubles. As an ASE cert tech it burns me up a bit that a shop would recommend a 3k diff without being damn sure it needed it. Unfortunately the way it played out you took them at their word but since they didnt do the work you're left with no recourse. Just a bummer. Hope you get it sorted easily from here on out. Cheers
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Again, my comment wasn't meant to mean you did anything wrong. More sympathy for your troubles. As an ASE cert tech it burns me up a bit that a shop would recommend a 3k diff without being damn sure it needed it. Unfortunately the way it played out you took them at their word but since they didnt do the work you're left with no recourse. Just a bummer. Hope you get it sorted easily from here on out. Cheers
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Ha! Well they are also ASE certified and theoretically should be trustworthy for a $90.00 diagnosis.
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Ha! Well they are also ASE certified and theoretically should be trustworthy for a $90.00 diagnosis.
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And in practice it appears they were not
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Is your 4Runner 4wd? If so, does the noise change or go away when put in 4hi?
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Is your 4Runner 4wd? If so, does the noise change or go away when put in 4hi?
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4WD. I've tested in 4 Hi and it does not change. My method was to go on country road, set cruise to 30 MPH (confirming that I could here the noise), and then engaged 4 Hi. The noise did not change in the slightest way.
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I dropped it off at NTB for a no-cost diagnosis (I'm just curious what they would say about wheel bearings).
He called me back just now and told me the right rear it making noise, but as he then told me they don't do wheel bearings I'm not entirely sure how much time they spent on it.
I do plan to put it back on stands and see what I can determine.
If I do decide to go for either or both of the rear bearings, what will I need from RockAuto?
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One of the basic test for a worn wheel bearing is to drive for 30 minutes, normal around town drive. Park it and get out. Walk around to each wheel and place your hand on the center hub of the wheel (not the plastic part). It should be warm to the touch but not hot. Compare all 4 wheels. If the wheels are not hot, the bearings are probably still good. If one is hotter than the others, its most likely the bad bearing.
Its not impossible to do yourself but you need a press capable of 20 tons. It took 14 tons to remove mine from the axle. But also check around at part stores like CarQuest. Some still do this type of service. I once paid $40 per bearing, well worth the cost. That was a bargain over the $1700 dealer fee.
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One of the basic test for a worn wheel bearing is to drive for 30 minutes, normal around town drive. Park it and get out. Walk around to each wheel and place your hand on the center hub of the wheel (not the plastic part). It should be warm to the touch but not hot. Compare all 4 wheels. If the wheels are not hot, the bearings are probably still good. If one is hotter than the others, its most likely the bad bearing.
Its not impossible to do yourself but you need a press capable of 20 tons. It took 14 tons to remove mine from the axle. But also check around at part stores like CarQuest. Some still do this type of service. I once paid $40 per bearing, well worth the cost. That was a bargain over the $1700 dealer fee.
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I'll try to make that road test happen today, I am curious to see what the results will be.
I called the local Toyota Dealership out of curious on pricing. ~$1050/each for the bearings: rain:
As far as your write-up, the FJ is the same as the 4Runner?
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One of the basic test for a worn wheel bearing is to drive for 30 minutes, normal around town drive. Park it and get out. Walk around to each wheel and place your hand on the center hub of the wheel (not the plastic part). It should be warm to the touch but not hot. Compare all 4 wheels. If the wheels are not hot, the bearings are probably still good. If one is hotter than the others, its most likely the bad bearing.
Its not impossible to do yourself but you need a press capable of 20 tons. It took 14 tons to remove mine from the axle. But also check around at part stores like CarQuest. Some still do this type of service. I once paid $40 per bearing, well worth the cost. That was a bargain over the $1700 dealer fee.
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Also, it appears 09521-25011-0 is a bit cheaper on Ebay now than when you did it? Any seller particularly trustworthy as some of them seem to have lower feedback scores and are based in China.
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Also, it appears 09521-25011-0 is a bit cheaper on Ebay now than when you did it? Any seller particularly trustworthy as some of them seem to have lower feedback scores and are based in China.
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Yes, the 07 FJC has the same setup. Buy it from rockauto. The bearing BCA WE60817 Rear Right (Only 2 Remaining) is $91 plus shipping. Its actually a japanese bearing made by NSK not a cheap Chinese knock off. Ebay isnt a reliable place to buy car parts.
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Yes, the 07 FJC has the same setup. Buy it from rockauto. The bearing BCA WE60817 Rear Right (Only 2 Remaining) is $91 plus shipping. Its actually a japanese bearing made by NSK not a cheap Chinese knock off. Ebay isnt a reliable place to buy car parts.
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Oh, that's the part number you reference for the bearing tool. It's under $150.00 now compared to the $300.00 when you did it.
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Oh, that's the part number you reference for the bearing tool. It's under $150.00 now compared to the $300.00 when you did it.
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I preemptively bought a new rear axle puller tool for my 07 4runner on ebay for $110. I dont need to change my bearings, but when I do, Im sure I wont be able to find this tool again, especially at that price. LOL
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