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Old 07-18-2021, 10:49 PM #1
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TPMS and new wheels

I ended up with a set of off road wheels for my 04 sport that I got off here!

What should I do for sensors? Im gonna go OEM but do I match the part number from the 18 or 04? Does it matter?

My old ones are still on the old wheels but one is a rubber valve stem but I think there is a sensor in there because the light was off when I had those wheels the light was off. another one of them was really hard to fill with air and was shorter then the rest. Id like to just get a new set
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I grabbed new Densoís off Rock Auto.
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I grabbed new Densoís off Rock Auto.
Thats other option, I currently have 1 of the Toyota TPMS on the spare and it will not be changed. Do I get them for a 2018 or 2004? or aftermarket or they all the same when aftermarket. If I go the aftermarket route I mean
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Regular valve stems and bypass the light. Iím doing this when I get new tires.


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Thats other option, I currently have 1 of the Toyota TPMS on the spare and it will not be changed. Do I get them for a 2018 or 2004? or aftermarket or they all the same when aftermarket. If I go the aftermarket route I mean
While the 2018 might be compatible with your 2004 T4R, I would get them for a 2004 T4R, otherwise you risk them not syncing up with the TPMS on your 2004.

Either way whoever mounts your tires will need to program/activate them to your T4R.
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This brings up a question. Everybody with a 4th gen has aging TPMS sensors unless they already changed them or threw them away. I have the newest of the 4th Gens with an '09. I am about to buy new tires. My 12-yr-old TPMS sensors are still working; should I replace them with Denso's which should be identical to Toyota (@$/2), or should I wait for them to fail and replace them then. They are supposed to last an average of 10 years. I am not going to deactivate the system; I tend to be a bit negligent about regular checking.
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This brings up a question. Everybody with a 4th gen has aging TPMS sensors unless they already changed them or threw them away. I have the newest of the 4th Gens with an '09. I am about to buy new tires. My 12-yr-old TPMS sensors are still working; should I replace them with Denso's which should be identical to Toyota (@$/2), or should I wait for them to fail and replace them then. They are supposed to last an average of 10 years. I am not going to deactivate the system; I tend to be a bit negligent about regular checking.
Hmm well I think I'm just gonna go the rubber valve route to cut costs and get get the light off.

If I was you I would consider just replacing them since your gonna get new wheels. Might be worth the cost to do it now and not end up paying twice to have the wheel taken apart again.
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Regular valve stems and bypass the light. Iím doing this when I get new tires.


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I did the same thing.
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This brings up a question. Everybody with a 4th gen has aging TPMS sensors unless they already changed them or threw them away. I have the newest of the 4th Gens with an '09. I am about to buy new tires. My 12-yr-old TPMS sensors are still working; should I replace them with Denso's which should be identical to Toyota (@$/2), or should I wait for them to fail and replace them then. They are supposed to last an average of 10 years. I am not going to deactivate the system; I tend to be a bit negligent about regular checking.
FWIW My 06 is still running with original sensors. I'll probably replace them next tire change unless I have issues before. I like using them W/ the scanguage to air down/up as needed for the trial. (also nice to be able to see if that idiot light is on just cause it's a cold morning and the spare has not warmed up, or if there is a real problem.)

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Regular valve stems and bypass the light. Iím doing this when I get new tires.
+1 on this. I was looking at 5 tires at $65 per sensor plus a $99 programming fee from my local tire store. I'd rather have $400 for other mods.
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If I was you I would consider just replacing them since your gonna get new wheels. Might be worth the cost to do it now and not end up paying twice to have the wheel taken apart again.
Well, I asked Sam's, and they said they did not sell TPMS sensors, but would install them for free if I provided them. I bought five Denso PN 550-0103 TPMS sensors from Amazon @ $33.13 ea. I bought four Cooper 265/65R17 AT3 4S tires from Sam's; Sam's is installing the tires and sensors Monday (2021-08-16) on my '09 SR5.

Meanwhile, my '07 Sport Edition proved the value of the TPMS sensors. I got a tire-pressure-warning light a couple weeks ago; one of my months-old tires was low. I aired it up and a week later the light was on again; this happened twice more with several days interval. The TPMS was warning me each time. I said to myself that this is getting serious, but I had never had a flat on brand-new tires before. Knowing that tire-repair places cannot find leaks in tires, I took the tire off to find the leak myself; it was easy; there was a drywall screw sticking thru the thickest part of the tread. I took it to the tire-repair place, and they told me to leave the vehicle and they would get to it in turn. I went to the auto-parts store and bought a repair kit, went home, and in five minutes, repaired it myself.

The bottom line is that I have had several flats on the expressway (very unpleasant), destroying the tire, and in one case, destroying the wheel. Tire-pressure sensors are great; I would never be without them again.
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I was in a similar situation when I switched to newer wheels from 2020 Tacoma. My stock wheels and tires had some life left on them so I didn’t want to touch the existing sensors.

The new wheels I bought had regular valve stems and no sensors. I drove around for a while but hated having the light on. I ended buying a used set from a friend who took them off his 2015.

The challenge at this point was not getting them installed but getting them programmed. Most places I called quoted me outrageous prices to program them. In the end a local shop charged me $50 to install the sensors onto my existing wheels. I have ended borrowing a Autel TPMS tool to program them myself. It was super easy. I can’t believe how complicated shops make it sound.

Personally I would try to keep them if you could.
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Well, I asked Sam's, and they said they did not sell TPMS sensors, but would install them for free if I provided them. I bought five Denso PN 550-0103 TPMS sensors from Amazon @ $33.13 ea. I bought four Cooper 265/65R17 AT3 4S tires from Sam's; Sam's is installing the tires and sensors Monday (2021-08-16) on my '09 SR5.

Meanwhile, my '07 Sport Edition proved the value of the TPMS sensors. I got a tire-pressure-warning light a couple weeks ago; one of my months-old tires was low. I aired it up and a week later the light was on again; this happened twice more with several days interval. The TPMS was warning me each time. I said to myself that this is getting serious, but I had never had a flat on brand-new tires before. Knowing that tire-repair places cannot find leaks in tires, I took the tire off to find the leak myself; it was easy; there was a drywall screw sticking thru the thickest part of the tread. I took it to the tire-repair place, and they told me to leave the vehicle and they would get to it in turn. I went to the auto-parts store and bought a repair kit, went home, and in five minutes, repaired it myself.

The bottom line is that I have had several flats on the expressway (very unpleasant), destroying the tire, and in one case, destroying the wheel. Tire-pressure sensors are great; I would never be without them again.
I ended up scraping them, I check my tires constantly anyway old habit of trying to being on tip of my auto maintenance.

I went with cooper also just 70 instead of 65s, one thing I will say is the tries report you did I'm guessing is tire plug? Keep in mind they are only supposed to be temporary fixes until a proper patch plug can be used. Sams does the repairs using those.

A lot of shops will throw a plug in it in the hopes it leaks again and then you comes back and they sell you a tire.
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Keep in mind they are only supposed to be temporary fixes until a proper patch plug can be used.
I was unaware plugs are supposed to be temporary. I have seen shops use them and I have too. For me, the plugs have always lasted the life of the tire.

I looked it up on the Internet; they give several reasons which I am not concerned with:

Unless the object is still in the tire you can't tell exactly where the hole is. I can see the validity of this for an unknown leak, but my object, a 1.25" drywall screw, was in the tire; I inserted the plug directly thru the same hole--no problem.

The shop can inspect the inside of the tire for additional damage. Again I can see the validity of this for an unknown leak; it could have been caused by hitting a pothole at high speed and virtually destroyed the tire, but I am confident that the drywall screw wouldn't cause additional damage inside the tire--no problem.

The patch could leak moisture into the steel belts corroding and delaminating them. This screw went thru the thickest part of the tread; the plug is super tight and sealed in the closed up rubber; I am confident that no moisture is ever going to get thru it--again no problem.

The reasons they give for it being a temporary fix have convinced me that I can regard it as a permanent patch -- it sure isn't going to fall out.
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I was unaware plugs are supposed to be temporary. I have seen shops use them and I have too. For me, the plugs have always lasted the life of the tire.

I looked it up on the Internet; they give several reasons which I am not concerned with:

Unless the object is still in the tire you can't tell exactly where the hole is. I can see the validity of this for an unknown leak, but my object, a 1.25" drywall screw, was in the tire; I inserted the plug directly thru the same hole--no problem.

The shop can inspect the inside of the tire for additional damage. Again I can see the validity of this for an unknown leak; it could have been caused by hitting a pothole at high speed and virtually destroyed the tire, but I am confident that the drywall screw wouldn't cause additional damage inside the tire--no problem.

The patch could leak moisture into the steel belts corroding and delaminating them. This screw went thru the thickest part of the tread; the plug is super tight and sealed in the closed up rubber; I am confident that no moisture is ever going to get thru it--again no problem.

The reasons they give for it being a temporary fix have convinced me that I can regard it as a permanent patch -- it sure isn't going to fall out.
Hey I've done it also but for me after seeing first hand what happens to the tires that do fail with them in or just constant leaking after id rather just do it right the first time. A lot of people ride the low for awhile and tear up the sidewalls in the inside and most discount places don't care or the tech doesnt care or is inexperienced and just plugs it and lets it go.

Another thing that stops me now from doing it is warranty. Plugs will void the warranty most of the time if noticed anyway and since I get my tires at sams and they are stickers for everything and its free repair also.

That being said have I done it? yes... Did I at one point within the span of 2 days get 7 nails in one tires thanks to construction around the corner from me... Yes. Did I plug all of them... Yes.
I mean I also replaced all 4 tires 4 days later but still.

My record when i was working was 4 in one hole and it held for 2 days! haha

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