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Old 09-13-2021, 08:20 PM #1
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Soft/Quiet Tires for Pavement

Looking for tires that soften the ride going over rocks, bumps, small objects in the road. Right now I Michelin that are very firm, I feel every bump and uneven concrete bumps. I had a mechanic tell me that Michelin are hard sidewalls, and that different tires would help with this. I believe he recommended Bridgestones.

I have the 265/65R17 currently. I wouldn't mind an increased tire size, but it's not needed. Most importantly, just a good road tire that can handle these random objects in the road and is fairly quiet. Bonus if they look cool, but again that is 3rd on the priority list.

Appreciate any relies.
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Im not sure that ive heard that before about a tire brand. Are you running the recommended 32 PSI? Otherwise, you want to look at the ratings of the tire (std load/ light truck etc), how many ply its rated (4 vs 10 etc)
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A lot of different factors to consider here. Suspension, speed, PSI, etc.. Different mfgs do have some proprietary material compounds but that is likely negligible. Typically the biggest difference comes from the tire type like a winter/all-season/AT with winter tires being the softest to maintain grip.

Although a little pricey, I have been running the BS Revos the last couple years. originally tried the Revo 2's and was very impressed so I opted for the Revo 3s last fall. So far so good for a daily with a little weekend flexing. Very quiet for an AT tire.
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What PSI are you using? What rating are you Michelins? If they are P/Passenger rated and you are running around 32 PSI, they should be fine. I hear that the Copper AT3s ride nicely but the Michelins should too. Check your tire rating and the PSI. If you're running 35-40, it is too high anyway and will result in a crappy ride.

I have run many tires (Revos, AT2s, DurTracs, KO2s) and since the 4R no longer sees any off-road duty, the Michelins and Coopers are at the top of the list. I never felt that Michelins had overly stiff sidewalls. The KO2s do have slightly stiff sidewalls while the DuraTracs were softer at the same rating and PSI. They became super loud though.
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Noise is mostly subjective perception. What I find bothersome, you may not and vice versa. Even an attempt at measuring SPL with a meter when driving will include contributions from tire, wind, engine, etc. so narrowing the source down to just the tires will be tough. IMO, above about 45mph, the main noise contributor is probably wind given the less than aerodynamic shape of the 4R. Rumor had it the glass thickness was actually increased as a running change after the first year or two in an attempt to reduce wind noise.

That said, Tirerack does include owner's noise perception as a review category for tires they carry. However, one has to remember this is a subjective rating and most folks are also comparing their new tires to the worn out set they just replaced. Our auditory memory is very very short in reality (recovered audiophile, here).

I've been running a set of Michelin Defender all seasons for a number of years now...long enough that I should probably check to make sure they haven't aged out at this point...with an 80K tread warranty and the 4R splitting time with the convertible during good weather, I'm not close to wearing them down yet. Anyway, they've been the quietest tire I've tried...previously were factory Bridgestones and then a couple of sets of Continentals (can't remember which model). I do run my pressure around 35-36 psi, tending to prefer a firmer ride (I also upgraded teh 4Runner with stiffer springs/shocks as well as doing the same for my convertible, which already came with a factory sport suspension). Intuitively, I would expect higher pressure to actually make for a somewhat quieter ride (less contact area) while increasing firmness/decreasing comfort somewhat.

Will all of my tires, I've found the actual road surface seems to have the biggest impact on tire noise. Can't remember much about the factory Bridgestones, but the Contis and Michelins noise could be non-existent on some surfaces and then roar like an AT on others.

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I have been running Michelin Defenders, stock size at 37 psi for several years and have no complaints about noise or ride suppleness. As suggested, what psi are yours? Some people think they need to be at 44psi all the time ... NO!
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The one thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is....how old are your shocks, usually feeling every bump in the road points towards worn out shocks.
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Since my 4R does not have to endure any off-roading anymore, I think I may go with the Defenders this time. Michelin makes a good passenger type of tire. Too bad their ATs are barely ATs and they don't do MTs.
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Thanks for the replies

I had my current Michelins at 38 PSI. Theyre about 4 year old tires. My suspension is new, BP51 up front with fox 2.5 in rear. The ride improved Alot with just that, but i still want a nice tire in addition tk the suspension improvements.

I spoke with another mechanic who has been doing work in the field for 32 years, and he suggested a touring tire. Sounds lame but I may give it a shot. Not sure yet
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On my ORP I run PIRELLI SCORPION ALL TERRAIN PLUS they are a pretty good and low noise on the highway, handle bumps well.

On my Limited I have BFGOODRICH ADVANTAGE T/A SPORT LT, these are a great tire for on-road use. My Limited rides very nice on the highway - smooth and straight tracking with these tires. - 5 star rating on Tirerack.
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My sliver Limited with BFGOODRICH ADVANTAGE T/A SPORT LT's
My black OR with PIRELLI SCORPION ALL TERRAIN PLUS
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My sliver Limited with BFGOODRICH ADVANTAGE T/A SPORT LT's
My black OR with PIRELLI SCORPION ALL TERRAIN PLUS
Thanks a lot Joseph! The photos are very nice. Those Pirelli look really nice!
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