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Has your 4th gen been expensive to maintain?
Hey everyone,
I wanted to create a post to give others a perspective on the cost of ownership of the 4th gens. If you would like to contribute, feel free to fill out any or all of the following questions:
Year:
Engine:
2WD/4WD:
Items replaced with approximate costs:
Mileage:
Mods:
Any additional comments:
Thanks!
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Year: 2008
Engine: V8
2WD/4WD: Full time 4WD
Items replaced with approximate costs:
-AC $1100 @155k miles (now failed and having to replace the import direct Compressor with a Denso unit - $850 next week)
-Fan clutch $180 @164k
Previous owner has replaced several seized calipers for somewhere around $1100 total
Timing belt/WP is going to be expensive, lowest quote for the V8 is $1100
Mileage: 167k
Mods: None
Any additional comments: Compared to my 3rd gen V6, there seems to be more maintenance required. The AC system is a HUGE labor intensive job. I highly recommend to ask your shop which parts they are using. IMO only use Denso (OEM).
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04-19-2022, 01:13 AM
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Mines an 04 V8 AWD I bought it with 111k miles on it and have replaced the timing and water pump at 122k miles cost was $571. I also had the shift motor seal replaced in the T-case at 130k miles cost was $560. Replaced the front output shaft seal on the T-case cost was $21 for parts. Just recently did the starter I think it was $180 for parts (dealership reman) but I just can’t remember. Most things I do myself but some things I have to pay others for. It currently has 201k miles on it and I have 3 major issues that I’m working on fixing. The HBB is next on the list at roughly $1300 for parts. Leaky driver side exhaust manifold roughly $500 in parts. Last but not least I devolved a rear main leak after I had to be rescued from the river. All in all for the age and abuse I put her through this vehicle is amazing!
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04-19-2022, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TejasRunner01
Hey everyone,
I wanted to create a post to give others a perspective on the cost of ownership of the 4th gens. If you would like to contribute, feel free to fill out any or all of the following questions:
Year:
Engine:
2WD/4WD:
Items replaced with approximate costs:
Mileage:
Mods:
Any additional comments:
Thanks!
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Good idea, although I haven't owned mine that long, if we keep this bumped it could be a rolling update type thread...
2007:
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4WD:
Both rear brake calipers and flexi hoses as one caliper was seizing.
Calipers: £74.61 £98.31
Hoses: £5.56 each
Pads: £40 (Brembo front and rear set £80)
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About 64000:
None mechanical:
Run on UK super unleaded to avoid E10 fuel:
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04-19-2022, 08:21 AM
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Interesting thread. We worry that the cost to maintain the 4th gen is too high when the truck is over 120,000 miles is kind of funny. If you owned a Chevy or Ford or pos Chrysler, you’d be discussing sending your truck to be scapped and replacing it with a new truck. So a few thousand bucks seems cheap in comparison to a new truck.
I bought my ‘07 sport with 222,000 miles with plenty of deferred maintenance. I have wrenched a lot on this truck to make it reliable for me and my boat. But its only been $$ for parts and my labor. I paid $6,500 plus tax, $7200 out the door (pre covid). Then about $1500-$2000 in parts to make it like new again. If you cant wrench or wont wrench, it can get very expensive for the owner. Every repair at the dealership generally costs $500 to $1500. Half that for an independent shop. If I couldnt fix it, I would never buy a toyota or any vehicle over 100,000 miles.
List of work done so far:
New bilstein shocks
Water pump, T-stat, rad hoses, pulleys, radiator, tranny cooler
Tranny flush, diff fluid, transfer case fluid
Front wheel bearings, axles
Brakes: 4 calipers, pads, SS flex lines, flush fluid
Sway bar bushings, other bushings
Fuel pump (not failed but aged)
Fuel injectors, intake gaskets
Spark plugs, pcv, valve cover gaskets
AC condenser (leaking) recharged
MAF
Cost was parts only, I did all the work. But consider how much all this would cost if you paid a mechanic to do it and hope they did it right with quality parts. I bought Denso when I could. It would be staggering.
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Interesting thread. We worry that the cost to maintain the 4th gen is too high when the truck is over 120,000 miles is kind of funny. If you owned a Chevy or Ford or pos Chrysler, you’d be discussing sending your truck to be scapped and replacing it with a new truck. So a few thousand bucks seems cheap in comparison to a new truck.
I bought my ‘07 sport with 222,000 miles with plenty of deferred maintenance. I have wrenched a lot on this truck to make it reliable for me and my boat. But its only been $$ for parts and my labor. I paid $6,500 plus tax, $7200 out the door (pre covid). Then about $1500-$2000 in parts to make it like new again. If you cant wrench or wont wrench, it can get very expensive for the owner. Every repair at the dealership generally costs $500 to $1500. Half that for an independent shop. If I couldnt fix it, I would never buy a toyota or any vehicle over 100,000 miles.
List of work done so far:
New bilstein shocks
Water pump, T-stat, rad hoses, pulleys, radiator, tranny cooler
Tranny flush, diff fluid, transfer case fluid
Front wheel bearings, axles
Brakes: 4 calipers, pads, SS flex lines, flush fluid
Sway bar bushings, other bushings
Fuel pump (not failed but aged)
Fuel injectors, intake gaskets
Spark plugs, pcv, valve cover gaskets
AC condenser (leaking) recharged
MAF
Cost was parts only, I did all the work. But consider how much all this would cost if you paid a mechanic to do it and hope they did it right with quality parts. I bought Denso when I could. It would be staggering.
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I absolutely agree with you, it is all relative to other vehicles on the road. Like you said, most other vehicles at this mileage would be very expensive to keep running. Thanks for your post!
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04-19-2022, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TejasRunner01
Hey everyone,
I wanted to create a post to give others a perspective on the cost of ownership of the 4th gens. If you would like to contribute, feel free to fill out any or all of the following questions:
Year:
Engine:
2WD/4WD:
Items replaced with approximate costs:
Mileage:
Mods:
Any additional comments:
Thanks!
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Mine's an 03' V8 SR5, completely stock, nearly 200k miles. It hasn't been too bad aside from the frame rust, the shot suspension and the 20 y/o stock, rotting, aluminum rims. The V8 is soldering on with little need for maintenance (Aside from regular maintenance and nothing that cant be fixed by duct tape.)
I got my 4runner for free at 186K, and I plan on eventually doing a full restoration, so costs to maintain it decently until that point are rising steadily. My biggest issue is with the frame, it's getting to the point a frame shop needs to do some work with it. Rust is eating through it like crazy. (Usually anywhere from 1,000-10,000 repair.)
Otherwise had to get all four brakes completely worked on, as well as brake lines. That was around 3-4,000$. 1 seized caliper, rear brake lines broken, and warped brakes.
It really depends on who the last owner was and how they treated theirs. Mine has seen a few good winters, 20 years of daily driving, a collision ripping the wheel off, a collision into a ditch, and the bottom of a shallow riverbed at some point.
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Year: 03 (I've owned it for almost 3.5 years I think)
Engine: V6 (very neglected when I bought it for somewhat cheap)
Mileage: bought with 199k now has 216k or so
2WD/4WD: 4x4 limited
Items replaced with approximate costs within the time I've owned it:
-exhaust bits - $250ish
-Gen 5 front strut assemblies and new rear shocks - $160
-Calipers, brake pads & disks all around plus all new rear brake lines. - $500?
-fixed oil pressure issue from neglect and sludge - $50
-front wheel bearings & dust shields - $200ish
-left & right CV axles - came in a box with the car so $0
-frame rust repair - cost of welding materials only
-ball joint that I paid a mechanic to do as I had no time $140ish
-dash bulbs - $10
-blinking a/c light - price of a new relay (blows cold air now)
-hatch wiper motor, power window bits (used) and latch (new AM) - $160ish
-alternator - $60 used
-serpentine belts and pulleys - $?
-front DRL/blinker sockets - $20
-floppy shifter - $0
-stuck spare winch - $0
-must be something I'm missing......
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-spark plugs
-front 02 sensors that had burnt out heaters because of a bad relay $100ish
-remote starter - $250
Mods: backup camera, oil pressure gauge, fisher plow
Any additional comments:
The salt use here does cars in pretty quickly. I do most of the repair work myself. Buying old high mileage cars would not work if I had to pay someone for it all. On a side note, my wife's Honda van is a few years newer with more mileage but less cost to maintain.
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04-19-2022, 04:49 PM
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Is it expensive? Depends on who you have do the work.
Owned mine from 115k to 175k.
Only thing that 'broke' that I replaced was a leaking CV boot very early on in my ownership.
Replaced spark plugs, freed up a frozen caliper, replaced wheel bearings while I had them off, brake pads but they still had some meat left, and fluids.
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04-19-2022, 08:46 PM
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Mods: Rear interior window switch, door open. level kit and remote start.
I bought it around 160k, needed a timing belt. Replaced everything in there. Changed all fluids, full atf exchange, front center and rear diffs, coolant. Just changed the radiator last summer from original. Previous owner had done the brake booster and shocks. Aside from these it's basically been preventive maintenance. Due for spark plugs and brakes soon (100k on brakes).
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04-19-2022, 10:25 PM
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I've got an '04 sport V8 with 162,000 miles and I wish I kept track of how much I've spent maintaining it.
So for I've replaced the entire suspension system, lower steering shaft, CV axles, radiator, all 4 brake calipers & brake lines plus a lot of little things like spark plugs, PVC valve, transfer case oil seals, side veiw mirror switch, two O2 sensors & probably a few other things I'm not remembering right now. A little over $3000 all together sounds about right. I do all the work myself with one exception when I paid an independent $650 to replace the timing belt & water pump.
It's all relative though. Even if I have to throw $1000 in parts at it every year that's still a whole lot cheaper than car payments every month. I'll keep at it for as log as the frame & body hold up. Besides, I like working on it-exept when it's -20 degrees outside.
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Honestly, I would have to really dig into my records to try and get a rough cost on parts, not to mention it wouldn't be accurate since I don't pay labor.
I can say that I've easily dropped over $6k in parts maintaining my 2004 V8 4WD over the last 11 or so years and 80k it so. I bought it with something like 86k on the clock and it was in rather good condition when I got it. But I also do a lot of preventive maintenance and have had to repair/rebuild some of the aftermarket things over the years, for example sending my Radflo lift in to be rebuilt after 4-6yrs and about 50k (yes, you actually should be having those fancy lift kits serviced guys! Shocks are not lifetime parts, most factory and aftermarket shocks degrade/start to wear out around 50-60k even if they don't leak! ), that alone was something like $800 for all 4 corners being rebuilt, plus maybe $50-100 in shipping, and another $100-ish for a cheap spacer lift to throw on some take-off Tacoma suspension we had lying in the back of the parts department that I borrowed. Other stuff was replacing things that hadn't failed, but benefited from servicing (i.e. building new lower control arms, a new set of sway bar bushings and links, new plugs every 50k, new headlights because the old ones were yellowing which needed updated connectors, etc.), so it's hard to say that my 4Runner has been expensive to maintain. I'm currently debating if I want to attempt to rebuild my powersteering pump or just bite the bullet and buy a new one, it's been getting a bit more whiny outside of very cold temperatures and I'm sure it's had a fairly hard life when I used to offroad a lot and pushing around the chunky tires I've had for almost as long as I've owned it. But does that count as maintenance? I could probably get away with never changing it and be good for a while as long as I service the fluid regularly; or I could wait until it fails and probably takes out the steering rack with sparkles and then buy all new steering system components, it's sort of the gray area you find yourself when you work on stuff a lot. Lol
I do enjoy working on my vehicle and I tend to budget my finances so that I can take care of the old girl, rather than wait for something to fail.
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Year: 2008
Engine: 4.0
2WD/4WD: 4x4
Items replaced with approximate costs: Just recently;
Alternator, idler pulleys, tensioner, belt - $450
Moog LCAs w/ball joints - $320
Dobinsons IMS shocks with new coils, swaybar links - $1300
New alarm and remote start - $300
Past repairs;
Rear wheel bearings - $700
Oil, fluids, spark plugs, cabin filters over the years - Probably $1500ish
Mileage: 205,000 miles
Mods: Yes, lifted, bumper, winch, stereo system, sliders, skids
Any additional comments: So far, this 4Runner has been cheap and easy to maintain. The latest repairs are somewhat expected for a vehicle this old, with this many miles, many hard off-road miles. It's been reliable and I still enjoy driving it.
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I keep a detailed spreadsheet of all maintenance done, hopefully this helps someone
The TL: DR is over last 50k miles I've spent $4,821.87 in maintenance over last six years since 180k miles, the biggest expense being wheel bearings, brakes and XRES removal.
Not everything was required but I don't like to let small problems fester and try to use only use OEM parts since I'm planning on keeping this truck forever.
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Initial Mileage: 182201
Current Milage: 235660
Date Description Price
16-Dec-2016 Initial Purchase, taxes, tags $8,400.00
16-Dec-2016 Pre purchase inspection $31.20
17-Dec-2016 Headlight restore kit $16.94 only lasted a few months, needs a kit w sealant
18-Dec-2016 G1W-CB dash camera $58.00 microphone stopped working after 10 months
19-Dec-2016 dash camera mirror mount $3.88
28-Dec-2016 Rear wiper blades (3 pack) $9.63
31-Dec-2016 Machine transmission flush $250.16 @182700
3-Jan-2017 All-weather floormats $42.50
3-Jan-2017 Master key blank, locksmith key cut $15.50
5-Jan-2017 Cabin air filter $9.87 @183310
10-Jan-2017 Paint running boards w bedliner $35.49
25-Jan-2017 Engine air filter $9.87 @183326
1-Feb-2017 Oil Change $21.14 @183803
1-Feb-2017 4 tires, Sumitomo Tour Plus LXT 265/65R/17 $708.54 @183803
17-Feb-2017 Passenger Side Window Switch $6.86
23-Feb-2017 PCV Valve $8.86
28-Feb-2017 Climate control bulbs 4x $9.89
17-Jul-2017 Oil Change $21.14 @189903
20-Oct-2017 Wiper Blades $24.99 advance auto blades suck, go with bosch icon next time
20-Oct-2017 10A Fuses $3.99 smokers kit lighter fuse
27-Jan-2018 Gas cap $25.43
17-Feb-2018 7.5A, misc fuses $7.99
7-Mar-2018 Rear wiper spring clip $18.99
8-Mar-2018 Interior LED lighting kit $50.00
9-Mar-2018 Reverse light LEDs $17.95
10-Mar-2018 Oil Change $23.95 @195519
11-Mar-2018 3D printed cupholder & insert $50.00 T4R member TiN
31-Mar-2018 Rear rotors and brakepads $267.24 @195620
18-Apr-2018 Center console tray & divider $26.93
27-Aug-2018 2x front hub assembly $365.00
9-Sep-2018 front brake pads $189.00
9-Sep-2018 labor to install hubs & brakes $514.00 @200260
27-Sep-2018 Oil Change, tire rotation $29.74 @200624
5-Mar-2019 Thule kayak rack, Crossroad w Lb58 $140.00
12-Mar-2019 Serpentine belt & install $179.43
13-Mar-2019 Turtlewax headlight restore kit $7.49 only lasted a few months, must buy a kit that contains a sealant
14-Mar-2019 Grease tube front arms $2.99
16-May-2019 Oil Change $23.95 @206430
10-Nov-2019 Wiper Blades $29.92 Rain-X Latitude 2-in-1, nice adapter, 22" drivers 20" passenger wipers
4-Dec-2019 Oil Change, tire rotation $23.95 @210623
20-Mar-2020 Headlight assembly left & right $191.63 @214593 Eagle Eye, lifetime warranty against defects including condensation | passenger side started condensating on 10/20, replaced under warranty
16-Jul-2020 Rear window weather strip $40.95 @215675 #68290-35031
17-Jul-2020 Engine/radiator cover clips $9.67 #90467-08217
18-Jul-2020 Oil change, tire rotation $72.57 @215720 Valvoline Maxlife 5w20, had to take it to station 1 due to covid, did chassis lube and fluid topoff
17-Sep-2020 Power Steering fluid ATF Dex ll $12.59 Needs ATF Dex ll or Dex lll NOT Power Steering Fluid
18-Sep-2020 Fluid Pump $7.59
25-Sep-2020 Kenwood XW800F Subwoofer $138.03 old sub died and was rattling
6-Nov-2020 BEAMTECH H11 6500k low beam bulbs $33.16
9-Feb-2021 Oil Change $56.13 @221136 Island Tire, synthetic blend 5w30
15-Feb-2021 Toyota SLCC Pink coolant $40.66 @221170 from dealership
16-Feb-2021 Coolant Flush $90.00 @221170 Island tire, charged for labor and recycling fee
8-Sep-2021 Splash Guards $20.54 @226360 original factory splash gaurds were completely disintegrated, leaving engine bay exposed
9-Sep-2021 XREAS Delete, Bilstien 5100 @. 85 $1,096.42 @226360 Huge difference from blown XREAS, installed 5100 @ .85 setting for stock ride height and level
10-Sep-2021 lower steering shaft $205.92 Steering has been stiff for about 10 months, will have shaft replaced and see If that helps
11-Sep-2021 yoke $28.00 Steering has been stiff for about 10 months, will have shaft replaced and see If that helps
9-Nov-2021 G1W-CB dash camera $36.49 Old one finally died
22-Mar-2022 oil change $74.64 @231622 5w30 synthetic platinum
22-Mar-2022 differential fluid change $88.27 @231622
TOTAL: $13,925.87
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Year: 2004 - orig. owner
Engine: V8
2WD/4WD: 4WD Sport
Items replaced with approximate costs:
Mileage: 119k
Mods: Current: Shrockworks bull bar since 2006, 2nd Icon front/rear suspension system, Hanna sliders
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The beauty of a So Cal car is that rust won't eat it alive. This 4Runner has been insanely reliable. The only "non-preventative maintenance" items I've had to repair/replace due to failure that I can recall are one or two O2 sensors (DIY), door lock actuators (DIY) rear subwoofer JBL system (DIY), rear window "window belt" (the horizontal rubber "squeegee" that wipes the rear window when it opens and closes, also DIY), and the gas cap a couple of times. My actuator has the slow leak at the transfer case and I'm looking for a mechanic here in coastal LA that can fix that. In the past year I noticed that one of my front CVs had a torn boot and my LCA bushings were shot so I replaced the CVs and the complete LCAs with new OEM. At the same time, I had my mechanic replace the bearings and hubs and all related seals and hardware and front diff fluid. Also had him replace weeping valve cover gaskets plug tubes, and engine oil/filter and spark plugs. I bought all the parts at a good discount, and mechanic charged about a little under $1,300 for total labor. Last month I had the rack and pinion and PS hoses replaced, again all OEM. That was about $2k.
Sooo....about $5-6k the past year on replacing long-life parts that should be good for another 10-15 years. I anticipate the rear main seal will leak at some point, and I'll probably need a new radiator and alternator within a few yrs. Still...haven't had a car payment since 2009...13 yrs ago. Last year the idea was that I'd hang on to this 4Runner forever as my dedicated off road explorer and camping truck.
Beauty of 03-04 is no secondary AIS to fail. Replacing the timing belt/water pump etc at 80k miles is PM in my opinion, along with brake pads/discs, and other wear paerts and fluids so I'm not including them...only including failed parts.
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